DP5 and DAE 7.1 anyone?

[ringley]

Hi all

I have just upgraded to DP5 and Protools 7.1cs6 which MOTU state is supported, either I am doing something very basic (I've checked most things). Protools runs just fine as you would expect but when I run DP5 it goes through the DAE startup and then says that it can't find any Audio Hardware or the audio hardware is not supported. I had no problems in running 4.61 and DAE 6.92.... time to wish I maybe hadn't bothered

I am running the following

G5 dual 2.5 OSX 10.4.6
DP5.0
Protools 7.1cs6
HD3 with 192

Anyone got any ideas

Kind Regards

Richard

[ringley]

Hi all

After posting the thread, I have been trying various options to solve this. The following is for anyone who wants to upgrade to DP5 and Protools 7.1

The problem seems to be with the preferences from the old version of performer and upgrading. I launched Performer 5 in MIDI mode to make sure it wasn't seeing the DAE. Then went and got rid of all the MOTU preferences from the ..user/library/preferences/motu directory.

Relaunched Performer and then loaded the old sequence and then selected
DAE. It takes a while but it will eventually get there. Unfortunately it seems that you have to follow this procedure with every old sequence. a pain but once done it's fine.

Hope this helps, and anyone please feel free to add anything to the thread that will help

Richard

[balsampillow]

Richard,

I am curious to know if you have any problems running DP5 with PT 7.
I will need to upgrade to DP5 to do a project in June (MIDI only), most projects I use the MIDI in PT but this one will require score generation and DP 4.6 is not compatible with PT 7 DAE... it won't launch even when MIDI only is specified.

Any tips on what I need to look out for?

Thanks,

Ray Lyon
www.balsampillow.com

[bksavage]

Hey. Hope you don't mind if I chime in.
I just wiped the internal drive on my G5 dual 1.8 and installed Tiger, 10.4.6 combo updater and PT 7, and then immediatley ran the cs7 updater before even launching ProTools. Now it's very stable and faster. I've ordered DP 5 and I'm INTENDING that it work with my TDM rig. I was running 4.61 with 10.3.9 and PT 6.9.3 and crashing all over the place; killed my productivity. I think that a great many issues with DAW's stem from overexhuberence; you have to be very careful when you put a NEW system on an OLD hardrive. Most of us don't do a low level format once a year anyway, so we should expect problems. There is a nifty little utility in Tiger called Migration
Assistant that allows you yo back up your system drive and then Migrate your app's and settings back onto the fresh system drive, after you wipe it and re-install the system. Now if I could only get the RMX SAGE converter to see the SAGE folder I could start having fun! I hope the new VI's don't suck and I'm excited about the scoring tools, but I'm going to create a new account for DP just in case The Unicorn and the Digi Giant don't get along...

[pcm]

Digi never approved 10.3.9, 10.3.8 was the last approved Panther system. Plus, PT 6.9.3 is the Tiger version, so that might have added to your troubles as well.

[bksavage]

My mistake; it was 4.6.1 with 10.3.8 and 6.9.2. I never went to 10.3.9 for that reason.
I just bought a refurb. dual 2.5 and I'm maxing out the RAM (8GB Crucial). If all goes well I'll have DP5, PT7.1cs4 (or higher) Stylus RMX and Mach 5 all humming along together on one machine. Also trying a WD SATA Raptor to record on.

We'll see...

[tripit@earthlink.net]

BE advised that using PT7 with DP5 and you will loose access to any HTDM plugs. That means that if you use HTDM on aux channels, such as for example Altiverb, you will no longer be able to use Altiverb on an aux channel with DP5 using PT7. PT7 no longer uses HTDM, because it now allows RTAS on auxs and post TDM, but DP5 does not allow for this. So, we've lost access to HTDM and the ability to put any HTDM or RTAS based plugs on aux / master channels.

Send an email to MOTU requesting that they make DP5 fully compatable for DAE/PT7.

[bksavage]

Never saw the advantage of HTDM; but I don't have Altiverb...

[tripit@earthlink.net]

Never saw the advantage of HTDM; but I don't have Altiverb...

Yeah, I probably wouldn't have either, because I never really noticed HTDM before, except that like most people, I bus my verb sends to aux. And for my work, the Altiverb is probably the most important and most overall used plug that I own. Unlike a lot of other plugs I own, I use Altiverb as my primary verb (along with several TDM verbs) on pretty much every single thing I do, so it's a big issue for me. I'm sure there are other HTDM plugs that I own that would have run into the same problem, but I've haven't even gotton far enough into a session using DP5 and PT7 to stumble accross them yet. Just the fact that I can't use Altiverb instantly shut down my ability to work with DP5 and PT7.
I geuss I'll have to wait until Altiverb 6 is out (which is TDM as well) or until MOTU fixes DP5. Gee, I wonder who will get it done first:)

Also, I might add, that PT7 allows for RTAS both before and after TDM, which is a huge benefit that we also can't access in DP5 unless MOTU fixes it to match PT7 fully.

[bksavage]

I feel your pain. I have a little utility that converts FCP sessions to Protools and I can't get it to work under PT7. I got PT7 so that it would work with DP under DAE and DP5 and I can't do the one little thing that services my biggest client. The RTAS thing is a drag because I upgraded to PT7 for the auxes and Master faders to accept RTAS; bait and switch man!

Someone needs to write an app that will TELL YOU where the conflicts are in your harware and software and then suggest a fix...

[bksavage]

Sorry, that last bit was more about another thread...