3.6.7.0 drivers any better?

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3.6.7.0 drivers any better?

Post by Atardecer »

Well, lets face it the 3.6.6.0 drivers were a joke. Has anyone tried the new XP drivers? I hope THESE ones werent made on April Fools Day...

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Post by arth »

Tried them -- I don't notice any difference at all, except for the "MOTU Audio Setup" icon having become darker.

Note that you have to uninstall the old drivers before you install them, or you'll get errors during installation. That's no big problem, as your settings will still be kept.

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Post by chemicalseb »

The 3.6.6.0 drives made my motu828 completely unusable. I couldn't even play mp3s in winamp through the 828, or any sounds as a matter of fact.
The new drivers seem to have fixed that problem.
I just installed them and briefly tested a project in Nuendo. So far it's working fine, and hopefully it'll stay that way hehe.
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Post by cRuNcHiE »

For me the 3.6.6.0 seemed fine on my laptop, now with the newer ones i get squeels and it sometimes sounds like its playing at wrong sample rate just when playing mp3s in winamp. :(

Happens every 20seconds or so, cpu usage does not go up at all when it happens so im pretty sure its the drivers :(
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Post by arth »

cRuNcHiE wrote:For me the 3.6.6.0 seemed fine on my laptop, now with the newer ones i get squeels and it sometimes sounds like its playing at wrong sample rate just when playing mp3s in winamp. :(

Happens every 20seconds or so, cpu usage does not go up at all when it happens so im pretty sure its the drivers :(
How do you use winamp with the MOTU firewire drivers? The drivers are directsound only, and the last time I checked, Winamp required waveout in order to set output device or control the volume?

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Post by cRuNcHiE »

Winamp has both directsound and waveout plugins, has done since the first version so im using directsound and have picked the MOTU SPDIF Device as my motu is connected to my Surround receiver digitally.

Waveout also has motu listed as available but yes, then the volume controls dont work, not that i use them.

EDIT:

Just set the samples per buffer to 192 and i no longer get the squeels in winamp :P The new driver had changed this to 128
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Post by Smokehouse »

Thanks Crunchie. I don't have a squeal, but I do have an occational dropout during audio playback from Windows Media Player. I've tweaked the crap out of my Windows setup -- disabled every exteranious hardware and network device, eliminated every IRQ contention, turned off every "auto update" process, ... everything... to no avail. There's no related CPU spike or anything during these very short, random gaps (the music actually "pauses" for a split second, rather than muting but keeping the beat.)

But I've found that by adjusting the "samples per buffer" I can make it better or worse, but not totally go away. I know that you are experiencing different symptoms (squealing) but how sensitive was the adjustment for you? It seems like 128 gives you problems but 192 doesn't. That's pretty sensitive. Do you get similar problems if you set the samples per buffer too high or too low?
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Post by cRuNcHiE »

It seems anything below 192 gives the squeel every few seconds.

If i put it at 32 it constantly gives choppy audio, you can hear it playing but with slower bits etc

128 gives the occasional squeel/slower playback

192 seems fine so far

tried 2048 and that also seemed fine


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Post by darjama »

3.6.6.0 was unusable for me with my 828 original. The 3.6.7.0 is usuable, but is giving me asio lost buffers if I'm moving the mouse more than a little. Looks like I'll be stepping back to the old drivers.

edit- I should probably add some info on my system:


gigabyte Nforce2 motherboard
AMD Opteron 165 cpu
2GB dual channel ram
2 x 160 ide drives
Windows XP home sp2
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Post by Smokehouse »

After lots of fussing, I'm am still unable to get reliable operations with 3.6.7.0. As described above, I'm getting ASIO driver dropping packets resulting in little gaps, stalls, and squeals. Am resorting to earlier driver version.

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Post by djencode »

Smokehouse wrote:After lots of fussing, I'm am still unable to get reliable operations with 3.6.7.0. As described above, I'm getting ASIO driver dropping packets resulting in little gaps, stalls, and squeals. Am resorting to earlier driver version.

Hello, MOTU?

well in fairness, ASIO is filthy and unstable to begin with from the get go. i remember in teh days of SX1 it would take me days to get asio to not lose sync 50 times...
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Post by chorga1 »

3.6.7.0 working well here. I didn't see a huge improvement, but my system is a tiny bit more stable...

Able to run the CPU up to 90% in a mixing session last night without any dropouts.




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Post by fnord »

On my Dell Dimension 9100 with a Pentium D 830 the 3.6.7.0 drivers gave random bluescreens. Had to go back to 3.6.6.0 and now it seems stable.

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Post by project »

If you guys think the MOTU drivers are lame then you would really hate the mackie drivers i couldnt go below 384 buffers on the mackie firewire option for my onyx 1640.

i am at 192 now (ultralite) with 2 UAD-1's but when i dont use the UAD-1's i can go even lower. (this is at 96khz sampling rate)

also there is no cuemix equivalent. unless you buy the 400f
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Post by chrono »

Haven't noticed any difference.

Don't forget to UNINSTALL previous drivers.
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