Help with Converting MIDI to Audio...Please!

radd · Post by **radd** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:32 pm

Hi, I'm still fairly new at this and hoping someone can help me. I've been searching, reading & fiddling with DP all day and have gotten nowhere.
I've read the threads in here about this but nothing is helping.

I have MIDI recorded onto a MIDI track.
I want to convert it into an audio track.
I tried freezing the MIDI track and an empty audio track together as stated in the manual. This gave me a frozen track but without any audio. (the MIDI track was play enabled, I can hear it playing while it's freezing)
MIDI track only plays when Dp output is set to DP output.
Both DP inputs & outputs (everything) in symphonic orchestra are on.
I tried freezing the MIDI w/an instrument track.
I tried recording MIDI to an instrument track.
I tried recording an audio track while playing the MIDI track.

I'm guessing it's a routing problem since a freeze track gets created but is empty.
I can't figure it out.

DP 4.6
Motu 2408 mk3
Eastwest Symphonic Orchestra Gold

billf · Post by **billf** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:37 pm

There's another thread going with this same subject. You might want to take a look there first and see if there's anything that helps:

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11256

radd · Post by **radd** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:44 pm

Yeah I saw that. Thanks anyway.

billf · Post by **billf** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:59 pm

radd wrote:Yeah I saw that. Thanks anyway.

Can you do a screen grab and post it so that we can see what your tracks window looks like.

radd · Post by **radd** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:43 pm

Here you go.

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image. ... 82a3ba.jpg

billf · Post by **billf** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:07 pm

So is the problem with the first MIDI track? In looking at the screen shot, is the MIDI supposed to trigger an external synth?

radd · Post by **radd** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:29 pm

Yes, track 1 is the MIDI track. No, not external. The MIDI notes/data are from the eastwest symphonic orchestra plug-in.

billf · Post by **billf** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:46 pm

radd wrote:Yes, track 1 is the MIDI track. No, not external. The MIDI notes/data are from the eastwest symphonic orchestra plug-in.

Click on the Output column on that MIDI track, and a pop up menu should appear with the plugin as a choice. Does it?

radd · Post by **radd** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:45 pm

Yes, it does appear in the output column as "EWQLSO Gold edition" 1-1 through 1-16. I tried each of them but no sound outputs while playing.
"DP output" is the only one that outputs sound.
Also when "EWQLSO Gold edition" is selected, there are no input options to choose from leaving the input column empty.

blue · Post by **blue** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:58 pm

"DP Outputs" are for Interapplication MIDI only, something you shouldn't be using to access a plugin instantiated within DP. Are you running EWQL stand-alone or as a plugin?

radd · Post by **radd** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:23 pm

blue wrote:"DP Outputs" are for Interapplication MIDI only, something you shouldn't be using to access a plugin instantiated within DP. Are you running EWQL stand-alone or as a plugin?

I don't know now.

I thought I was running it as a plugin.
I installed the EWQL software onto my mac and recorded some notes in real time from the kompakt keyboard/player that came with it with my mouse into a MIDI track in DP. Does this mean I'm using it as a stand-alone?
Am I going about this completely wrong?

blue · Post by **blue** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:37 pm

Is there an Instrument track in your project that says something like EWQL-1? If so, you are running it as a plugin. If you had to open the EWQL app separate from your DP project and are using DP Outputs to play it, you are running it standalone.

You can run ewql stand alone, but you forgo some functions like freezing in the process. I would run it as a plugin. Look in the manual for a detailed description of how to use instrument tracks. It's all there.

PSPartyband · Post by **PSPartyband** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:40 pm

Shouldn't the MIDI tracks output be assigned to the EWQLSO? eg EWQLSO 1-1

Also I noticed that the EWQLSO is assigned to a bus and not an output, is the bus assigned to an output?

blue · Post by **blue** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:01 pm

Oops. I had missed the screenshot.

That says it all. Looks like the EWQL plug needs to be rerouted.

radd · Post by **radd** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:27 pm

blue wrote:Is there an Instrument track in your project that says something like EWQL-1? If so, you are running it as a plugin. If you had to open the EWQL app separate from your DP project and are using DP Outputs to play it, you are running it standalone.

I GOT IT!!!!!

There is a separate track called "EWQL Gold edition-1".
I was able to select that and the MIDI track and successfully freeze to create an audio track. WooHoo!

This in turn solved 2 more problems I was having.
1. I can now bounce to disk sounds created with MIDI.
2. I can add plugins like EQ, reverb ect. to the sounds created with MIDI.
OH yeah, I'm learnin'.

Thank you so much for your help and time spent helping me guys.
I appreciate it so much! THANKS!!!