Fender or Gibson

FRIAS · Post by **FRIAS** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:19 am

Hi,

i'm a spanish musician and I'm involving in the difficult jazz guitar world. I have a great Amplifier: Gibson Goldtone 60W. But is too heavy to move for play in a nightclub. I'm looking for a small one that I can move easily.

Can you help me?

thank you

KWEBB · Post by **KWEBB** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:43 pm

FENDERS- DELUXE 1-12, VIBROLUX 2-10 Great JAZZ amps.
PEAVEY-CLASSIC 30 1-12 Great also.
POLYTONE amps stay clean if thats what you want.
These amps are not heavy.

roccoc · Post by **roccoc** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:48 am

you cant go wrong with a fender deluxe.....

yofo · Post by **yofo** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:12 pm

I have a new Fender Deluxe and a 70's Twin Reverb amongst others .Also , my store has the Gibson Goldtone 60W that Frias said he had and so my 2 cents worth is that the Deluxe is too small and underpowered (1x12 -22 watts)to get the fat jazz tone . Stay with the amp you have . I have had people in my guitar store say exactly what the poster said , I want the Jazz tone but I'm tired of carrying around a big amp and so I tell them to stop being a big sissy. ( not really , that would get me fired and I have a kid in college ) Dont get me wrong , I love my Deluxe but when I run my ES 175 to it and turn it up even a little bit , the bass notes fart out a bit .

shankyboy · Post by **shankyboy** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:02 am

The "standard" for good clean jazz amps has always been the Roland JC-120 but that is a big amp. I know they have a smaller 1X12 version of that amp. I think it's a JC-30.

I recently picked up one of those Fender Blues Juniors with the lacquered tweed and the Jensen P-12. Not what I would call a super clean amp, but it is just perfect for my Blues gigs. Guitar in one hand and this little amp in the other and I am good to go.

ed belknap · Post by **ed belknap** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:26 pm

shankyboy wrote:The "standard" for good clean jazz amps has always been the Roland JC-120.

Hardly. If there is such a thing as a "standard" it's probably a Fender Twin Reverb (just ask Wes Montgomery) or a Polytone MiniBrute (just ask Joe Pass).

Oh wait, they're both dead.

I've never met a traditional jazz guitarist who embraced the Roland JC120. They will tolerate them because they can get loud without distorting, but there's way too much tonal shaping going on in a JC120 to appeal to a diehard jazzbo. Most of the old school guys playing swing & bebop on deep body archtops would rather play through a bass amp than a JC120.

On the other hand, I've encountered a lot of rock guitarists who hear a JC120 and think "gosh, that's really clean [i.e., undistorted], it must be a jazz amp."

shankyboy · Post by **shankyboy** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:32 pm

Well Ed, perhaps I should rephrase my statement. Most of the old school jazzers that I have come across played a JC-120 and I have read many magazines that referred to it as the standard.

KWEBB · Post by **KWEBB** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:45 pm

The newwer fender hot rod deluxe is 40 watts and it stays fairly clean at louder settings.

dosuna11 · Post by **dosuna11** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:06 pm

If you have the $ think about an Evans Amp.

FRIAS · Post by **FRIAS** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:32 pm

Hello guys,

thank you for you "hot help". I have decide to buy the Roland Cube 60W. it's small and is not heavy. It has a good sound to play in a club and for the use I'll do it is the better choice for me. Thank you very much.

I'll see you.

Kawentzmann · Post by **Kawentzmann** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:04 am

ed belknap wrote:
shankyboy wrote:The "standard" for good clean jazz amps has always been the Roland JC-120.

Hardly. If there is such a thing as a "standard" it's probably a Fender Twin Reverb (just ask Wes Montgomery)

I thought he used a Standel???

KK

YouTube · Post by **James Steele** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:46 am

I LOVE this thread. Forgive me, but as a guy who hauls a Marshall stack to gigs, I find the "my combo amp is too heavy" concept amusing.

jaffi · Post by **jaffi** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:38 pm

I am with you James. I have a SWR rig that takes a few hands to carry in to the club. But, when it comes to guitar (which I definately have a jumpin' jive at) I use a Fender combo. It's a heavily modded HRD (cheap, but the pcb resembles those of the old Fender combo's, so I get to put my 2M skills to work), but it sounds slick as all hell. I use a 2002 LP Standard Plus, a 1978 Electra Omega and a PRS Arch top through it. It can give you a buttery warm, soothing tone. But, it can give you that slight breakup that really gets the point across when you go for a chord solo. Sometimes it really makes me wonder what a Fender Strat or Tele would sound like through it. But, then I remember the noise.

lane_hagood · Post by **lane_hagood** » Tue May 09, 2006 9:35 pm

FRIAS wrote:Hi,

i'm a spanish musician and I'm involving in the difficult jazz guitar world. I have a great Amplifier: Gibson Goldtone 60W. But is too heavy to move for play in a nightclub. I'm looking for a small one that I can move easily.

Can you help me?

thank you

yofo said it!

lane_hagood · Post by **lane_hagood** » Tue May 09, 2006 9:37 pm

lane_hagood wrote:
FRIAS wrote:Hi,

i'm a spanish musician and I'm involving in the difficult jazz guitar world. I have a great Amplifier: Gibson Goldtone 60W. But is too heavy to move for play in a nightclub. I'm looking for a small one that I can move easily.

Can you help me?

thank you

yofo said it!

i am sorry to hear he went for the roland cube, yikes!

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