Wish list For DP 5.1 (or DP5?)

bennals · Post by **bennals** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:40 am

an oldie but in my opinion, a goodie...user definable midibites in the sequence editor. I want to be able to throw chunks of MIDI data around like soundbites. Been waiting years (since ditching PT) for this.

Bill.

gdw3 · Post by **gdw3** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:46 pm

Can you use clippings to do this?

bennals · Post by **bennals** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:15 pm

Well, I guess you could repeatedly drag the same clipping out of a clipping window, but once it was in the sequence editor it would lose all it's usefulness as a functional unit.

Bill.

Ruud Unit · Post by **Ruud Unit** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:35 pm

Any rumors of a release coming up???

We're almost out of the first quarter of 2006!

b2 · Post by b2 » Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:18 pm

COMPRESS Command

To Compress high and low Tempos, Controllers etc.

ZOOM TRACKS WINDOWS!!!

greeny · Post by **greeny** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:23 am

A simple command to insert "blank time" anywhere in the tracks window, and in any other edit window for that matter - if possible.

In block style (for arranging purposes) using the I-beam or per individual track using the object-select cross-beam.

....and, Zoom in the track window !!!

Spikey Horse · Post by **Spikey Horse** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:42 am

greeny wrote:A simple command to insert "blank time" anywhere in the tracks window, and in any other edit window for that matter - if possible.

.... what about 'insert measures'?.... or do you mean something different?

Tracks window does have horizontal zoom - if vertical zoomness is needed I think the seq editor is the place to be. So I don't feel the need for it.

(but I support your right to have the option there

)

Rush909 · Post by **Rush909** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:05 am

Spikey Horse wrote:
greeny wrote:A simple command to insert "blank time" anywhere in the tracks window, and in any other edit window for that matter - if possible.
.... what about 'insert measures'?.... or do you mean something different?

Tracks window does have horizontal zoom - if vertical zoomness is needed I think the seq editor is the place to be. So I don't feel the need for it.

(but I support your right to have the option there )

I hope MAGIC D. is reading this... Zoom in the Tracks view IS NEEDED!!!!! any argument that says that since zooming is available in SE then it's not needed in TO is wrong! since you can't view MIDI tracks in the SE in the same way that you can see them in TO (as blocks of data) it makes the SE useless for MIDI track manipulation... thus that argument is not a valid one...

but I have a solution... just make another option in the SE that allows you to see MIDI tracks in the same way they are displayed in the TO (as MIDI blocks)... just place it under the "notes" and "notes with velocities" dropdowns... that way you don't have to mess with TO, which I am guessing is a huge re-write... and just give the people what they want...

r.

soundoptions · Post by **soundoptions** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:44 am

I wish that Motu would allow the user to specify part per quarter note resolution instead of defaulting to 480 ppq. Most other softwares allow this. 460ppq is good for scoring or full productions but for the tightness of hip hop it tends to quantize to loosely. Example the MPC 2000 will allow you to go as tight as i think 96 ppq resolution. This may not matter to some but it can be a bit frustrating trying to massage the quantization into giving me the tightness i'm looking for.

greeny · Post by **greeny** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:54 am

My guess is that the Tracks Window is the one window upon which the greatest part, or the most significant part of the DP application is anchored, therefor it is most unlikely we shall see any changes in its configuration or features.

DP's roots must be deeply embedded in the Tracks Window because it hasn't changed or evolved at all in the past years, for as long as I can remember - which isn't all that long since I only came to Motu-land after Opcode folded in 98. I jumped ship onto DP3, I'm glad I did, and it's been an amazing ride ever since! But I'm afraid we won't see any revolution in the TO department - just a hunch.

Answering the question about "measure insert" - yes, it's what I meant, but ideally one should be able to insert "blank-time" of any quality or value - a "measure" is an American term for that which we in Europe call a "bar" (or is it the other way around?) - the "insert" should not be restricted to any bar (measure), quantity of bars or bar sub-divisions; that would be fine, most fine indeed, but the ability to define the amount of "blank-time" should be solely the choice of its user - in other words: Blank-time = Blank-free-time.

I'm very much looking forward to DP5 as well as some fresh cash for a new powerful machine (Quad) and PCIe card upgrade in order to support the gas-guzzler DP has become nowadays - things ain't what they used to be.

Will DP5 run on my dual 1.25/G4? It'll most likely crawl ...

Spikey Horse · Post by **Spikey Horse** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:12 pm

I hear you Greeny about the insert measures (yes I call them bars outside of DP).

You could insert measures (as many as you need approximately for the length you want) at a particular point in the sequence and then open 'change tempo' window and click options and enter a specific time length for those measures just inserted.

Would that solve it?

Jeff Isaacs · Post by **Jeff Isaacs** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:59 pm

(1) I want to be able to lock all the takes of a given track together so they could be moved before being comped or discarded, or even just saved. I'll be mixing and trim the excess off the front of a tune, do a select all and slide the pieces back. Later we may decide to see what a given solo take had earlier, only to find we can no longer get it to sync up without a lot of hassle. The usual answer would be, don't slide stuff around until you're finished with it. Wouldn't a lttle button over by the track name make sense? Imagine being able to select a portion of a track, lock it together, move it, and then still be able to work the parts seperately.

(2) I want to import several soundbites at once, and have the green "thermometer" tell me which one it is on. Now it just runs one after the other until it has finished with no indication of progress.

(3) Now for the "dream on" wish. I would like to be able to put a series of tasks into a sort of Macro, which could automatically be repeated in order on a series of soundbites. We often do projects with long tracks which end up getting divided into a series of cuts on a CD. As you move from marker to marker selecting the sections and bouncing to disc, the chair gets hard and the brain goes numb. The program could just number them and do this for you!:roll:

tripit@earthlink.net · Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:11 pm

I don't know if this has already been mentioned, but right now there is a real need for DP to handle 23.97 frame rate. I've had several recent films and one cartoon series for Cartoon Network that I am scoring that are working with 23.97. It's a real pain to have to deal with this as DP currently only offers 24 fps. There is no way to lock to picture if it comes in at 23.97.

Protools allows for 23.97 and also features pull downs and pull ups. If Motu is positioning DP as a composers tool, which it seems that they have made this a point, the ability to lock to picture at 23.97 fps and allow for pulls downs and ups is really important. Hopefully they're already on top of it and it's part of 5.0.

The other feature which is making DP compatble with PT7.

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:20 am

All great ideas mentioned here already.

Most of what I'd like to see for DP5 are the same things I've wanted for DP4 (and earlier).

Still:

1) The wrong pitches sounding when moving MIDI notes in the MIDI edit window

2) Vertical zoom in the Tracks window

3) Integrated univesal librarian and/or user definable librarian for VI's

4) Include the "add multiple intstrument tracks" in the same control-click process that MIDI and audio tracks use for adding multiples. (Why the double menu?)

5) Universal audio format import

6) Offline VI-to-audio rendering

7) Keyboard-numerical input of bus send settings on the mixer (same as pan)

The ability to use third-party music fonts in QuickScribe, and more flexible page layouts.

9) A more foolproof way to set up track and score preferences in QuickScribe that don't revert to whatever clef it deems appropriate once the defaults have been changed.

10) Faster boot, faster shut down without hanging or crashing

11) User definable transposition presets that don't disappear--!!

12) Tidier save/ save as/ save copy as. Save and save-as are plenty. The Save As window itself should contain the options to save "as copy"-- would be much more foolproof.

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:06 am

Great list, Frodo. Nicely edited for brevity.

Allow me to add:

13) working Tap Tempo, 100% of the time.

14) select controller tics at 127 and 0 in all screens by dragging (currently require clicking to select extreme values in some views)

Shooshie

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Wish list For DP 5.1 (or DP5?)

Ability to change part per quarter note resolution

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