New 16A interface - is web API still supported?

[a13jUK]

Hello,

1st Gen MOTU AVB interfaces include web API which allows to control them via custom software alongside web-based "CueMix".

New 16A interface is controlled via dedicated CueMix app and I cannot find any mentioning of web API support, which would be a bummer as my whole studio is controlled via custom controller and software.

Can anyone confirm or deny?

Thanks.

[EMRR]

Someone elsewhere said the new does not see the old via the new CueMix. If so, you probably have to use the separate control apps in a mixed system and point each to the blind holes known to be the other. Which sounds like a drag.

[PhireAlly]

Hey Folks,

It is correct that the new generation 16A does not have the built-in web server as the older AVB devices did....
However, the new CueMix Pro App can see both old and new devices on the network.

Here's MOTU's explanation from the user manual (Page 62)...

"Most AVB devices should display basic device and stream settings in CueMix Pro.
In some cases, this may not be the case. If so, you will need to access the device’s settings through the device itself, or its control software."

Hope this helps
PhireAlly

[James Steele]

Hmmmm... basic device and stream settings. I wish I knew if that meant I could mute/solo inputs or control levels. I guess I'd have to download it and try.

[James Steele]

For giggles I downloaded the new software for the 16A. Mounting the disc image just gives you the CueMix Pro app and an alias to your Applications folder. I copied it over and below is what I saw. I'm not going to click "Install" for the driver since I don't have a 16A... much to scared to try that.

Seems to me if you have the older MOTU interfaces like I do, you're stuck with the web browser interface.

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[PhireAlly]

Hey all,

The screenshot James posted isn’t surprising to me.
MOTU states that in order to see older devices in the new CueMix Pro app a stream connection between the new and older devices must be established. (check pages 62 - 63 0f the user manual)
If for example you have a mixed network of devices, most of the devices on the network should be accessible from CueMix Pro.

So in James’s example, yes, a (2025) 16A
must be in the network for CueMix Pro to see the older devices.

Stand alone CueMix Pro operation with older MOTU AVB devices doesn’t seem to be possible.

That’s what I’ve gathered from all that I’ve read thus far.

Hope this helps to shed some more light on the situation.
PhireAlly

[PhireAlly]

Hmmmm... basic device and stream settings. I wish I knew if that meant I could mute/solo inputs or control levels. I guess I'd have to download it and try.

Here's some more info from the CueMix Pro section of the user manual (page 49)

"If earlier-generation MOTU AVB interfaces are present on the network, they appear in the sidebar. Click on them to access basic settings in the Device tab. Unavailable tabs will be grayed out."

It seems like you'll be able to assign streams, change sample rate and assign clock sources.
Check the attached screenshot.

[James Steele]

It seems like you'll be able to assign streams, change sample rate and assign clock sources.
Check the attached screenshot.

Thanks so much. Do you know if you can use the CueMix Pro app mixer to control input levels, mutes, etc? Does the mixer section work on the older interfaces?

I guess it doesn't matter and can't be integrated unless you also buy a newer MOTU interface. If I just need more I/O, it seems like third party options that connect via ADA are probably a more economical route.

[PhireAlly]

Do you know if you can use the CueMix Pro app mixer to control input levels, mutes, etc? Does the mixer section work on the older interfaces?

I couldn't find any definitive statements that says it's possible but the way the text reads to me appears to imply that,
Mixer functionality of previous generation MOTU AVB devices in the CueMix Pro app is not possible.

PhireAlly

[James Steele]

...but the way the text reads to me appears to imply that,
Mixer functionality of previous generation MOTU AVB devices in the CueMix Pro app is not possible.

Thanks... yeah, that's too bad. I've had issues with the browser-based mixer. I can often mute channels on the mixer and it can sometimes take a couple of times before it "sticks." Same with working with the routing matrix where I clicking on a square doesn't always take the first time. Oh well.

Anyway, again, it seems to be clear that if you don't already own a MOTU interface the 16A would be a good choice. In my case, if I merely want to add more analog i/o to my 828es and 24Ai setup, I'd probably be better served by one of the many expansion options that connect via the ADAT ports. It would be less expensive also.