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Please forgive my tecnnical stupidity and answer............

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Hi-

Thanks for reading.......

I am bracing for the mactell invasion and am about to sell off my existing rig titanium 800+828(older)/dp4.61)

I was thinking about switching to the 828 usb due to the little extra bandwidth over fire wire 400.......and since I use a powercore firewire that like's it's own bandwidth for optimal performance...

With the Macbook pro, If I am running an 828 on the usb buss, and an access virus ti that has usb audio/MIDI on the other usb buss, if I were to add a usb hub for a MIDI express and mouse, etc.....

would I be exceeding my usb bandwidth?
Would it be better to stay firewire with the 828?

any thoughts or opinions would be gratefully appeciated.
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Post by arumdevil »

I am in a similar situation, except I already have the original 828 which runs on FireWire. I plan to run an external SATA drive on the USB bus in which case having the 828 on a separate bus makes sense to me.

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jgest wrote:I was thinking about switching to the 828 usb due to the little extra bandwidth over fire wire 400
You should call it extra banwidth in theory. USB2 has an advantage over FW400 (480 vs. 400 kbit/s) but this is only in theory.
If you look at real world tests than these tests show that in reality FW400 is faster than USB2.
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papageno wrote:
jgest wrote:I was thinking about switching to the 828 usb due to the little extra bandwidth over fire wire 400
You should call it extra banwidth in theory. USB2 has an advantage over FW400 (480 vs. 400 kbit/s) but this is only in theory.
If you look at real world tests than these tests show that in reality FW400 is faster than USB2.
I guess what has my undies tied in a knot is that I'm using the tc-powercore firewire for dsp, and thought that I would exceed bandwidth on the fire wire buss with an 828 and a powecore?
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Post by mesasand »

Here's an easy answer: add a Firewire card to your new box. I also have an 828 mk2 and an original 828. In order to run both, I needed two slots. For $20, I have three additional Firewire ports, each with its own full bandwith pipe. Problem solved!
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Post by arumdevil »

mesasand, that's all very well on a desktop system with PCI slots but jgest seems to be thinking about getting a MacBook Pro, and until these new-fangled express 34 cards start to come on the market a firewire card won't be an option.

(someone please feel free to point out if they are already availible)
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arumdevil wrote:mesasand, that's all very well on a desktop system with PCI slots but jgest seems to be thinking about getting a MacBook Pro, and until these new-fangled express 34 cards start to come on the market a firewire card won't be an option.

(someone please feel free to point out if they are already availible)
That is correct.....
Macbook pro, 3 gigs of ram, osx 10.62, Dp 5.13, Live 8.1.2, Reason 4, Tc powercore Virus, Albino 3.02, proper ergonomic sitting posture, plenty of coffee (french press only with a pinch of cardamon added)
My dp inspired music.....
http://www.myspace.com/aislingbeing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.myspace.com/wigginsmaroo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=10004" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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