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How can I "spin" my mix?

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I have a story song where at the dramatic peak of the lyrics the main character turns around to see who is behind him while the music does a rising EDM-type "sting" (Is that the right term?). As I was sitting in my swiveling office chair listening to the mix on my studio speakers, just for fun I spun myself around in my chair while listening to that part and I liked the way it sounded. So here is the question: How could I create the effect at that point in the mix that the listener is spinning in a circle while listening to the music come out of the speakers? Fancy panning? If I had binaural mics, I could record the mix coming from the speakers into the binaural mics while actually spinning in the chair, but I don't have binaural mics. I suppose they only way to create the totally authentic effect would be for every listener to sit in an automated spinning chair. Probably a surround sound mix could get closer. But I'm currently only mixing in stereo.....If anyone wants to make an attempt at it, I can send you a stereo .wav file of the final mix and you can go for it....

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Re: How can I "spin" my mix?

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Not sure if you'd want to spend this kind of money on it ($129), but this would probably do a good job.

https://wavearts.com/products/plugins/panorama-7

If you wanted to work this moment out on your own, you could try a few things. I'm just musing, so take these ideas with a grain of salt.

You could include a room reverb track that you pan around to help with the "move".

As you turn your head to the right, the right channel begins pan left, joining the left channel on the left side of your head; with more reverb on the right side. Then, as you continue around, the left migrates to the right. Perhaps both darken slightly as they are now behind you.

You could play around with panning the reverbs to create the effect of rotation, but I suspect it would be difficult to capture. I'm curious if a convolution could capture such a maneuver. I kind of doubt it.
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Re: How can I "spin" my mix?

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Couldn't you use the Trim insert on a Master track and automate Pan of the L&R channels?
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Re: How can I "spin" my mix?

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Possibly. The more I think about it, I realize I don't need absolute realism. Simply mixing in a soft "spinning whooshing" sound may achieve the desired effect.
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ATMOS mix. :shock:
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Re: How can I "spin" my mix?

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Tidwells@aol.com wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 5:22 pm Possibly. The more I think about it, I realize I don't need absolute realism. Simply mixing in a soft "spinning whooshing" sound may achieve the desired effect.
If you combine the whoosh with a pan move --both on the whoosh itself, and the entire mix, that should give you a pretty effective result.
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