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kcinsu wrote:I just dropped by to say, I bought Kontakt 2.

I'm never buying a piece of software by MOTU again. They really need to get their act together.
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enjoy that wonderful interface
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Good luck - dont believe the hype!
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el Ocho 2.8 running DP6 & RMX with M5II - 828mkII / el Quatro 2.66 running Vienna VI & Vienna Ensemble, RAX 2, M5II & L8 for VSL - 2408mkII / steiner MIDI EVI, Oberheim Xpander, M5II reading UVI .dats, Radium 61 controller
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kcinsu wrote:I just dropped by to say, I bought Kontakt 2.

I'm never buying a piece of software by MOTU again. They really need to get their act together.
As if you ever bought MOTU software...
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homebilly wrote:another happy Kustomer


http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9842
Wow he must be really krazy getting konned into buying software from a kompany that kan't spell! :lol:
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RCory wrote:
kcinsu wrote:I just dropped by to say, I bought Kontakt 2.

I'm never buying a piece of software by MOTU again. They really need to get their act together.
As if you ever bought MOTU software...
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i'm in paris today and tomorrow i'm going an a mack V II REKON mission. I kan't wait.
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Very interesting thread. Im new to the site. I decided to buy DP, was going to wait for DP5, but If Im going to have to wait, Id better get 4.6 if I can find it. But I thought Id drop in here because Ive read the specs on Mach5 2, thought it sounded good. I tend to look for the problems users are having AFTER I read all of the marketing hype.
So tell me if you will, what are the good points to Mach 5 and why did you guys buy it compared to other comparable products? Would you buy it again and if not, what would you buy?
I also found it refreshing that people are willing to help others who are having problems w/the sw. Ive been using Ensoniq samplers for years, not looking to replace, but for something to use with my hard samplers.
Of course, I may have lost my mind...
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ADino wrote:So tell me if you will, what are the good points to Mach 5 and why did you guys buy it compared to other comparable products? Would you buy it again and if not, what would you buy?
I'll play. I have MachFive and like it, by and large.

What I like:

* 16 channels per instance of M5, each with discrete outputs

* Great set of built-in effects (based on the UVI engine). I like to dress my samples up most of the time and those effects often get the job done for me.

* Seems to play with CPU and RAM nicely enough

* The basic UI layout makes clear, intuitive sense

* Software sampling is so much more convenient that hardware.

* Can output many other UVI-based virtual instrument libraries like USB Charlie and MOTU SI, offering some flexibility

* Handles AKAI samples great.

What I'm less fond of:

* The sample library it ships with. Not terrible, but not great either. I'd rather have ten great samples rather than fifty okay samples.

* Although it''ll import and convert Gigasamples, it doesn't translate keyswitches and other high-end sample tricks so it's a compromised solution in that case

* UI art direction looks ridiculously videogame-sci-fi (but doesn't quite dork out to the level that USB FXtreme does)

If I were to do it over again today, I'd likely reach for NI Kontakt 2. Better shipped sample library. But, I'd miss those UVI effects which, as I said, are pretty useful.
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chrispick wrote:
ADino wrote:So tell me if you will, what are the good points to Mach 5 and why did you guys buy it compared to other comparable products? Would you buy it again and if not, what would you buy?
I'll play. I have MachFive and like it, by and large.

What I like:

* 16 channels per instance of M5, each with discrete outputs

* Great set of built-in effects (based on the UVI engine). I like to dress my samples up most of the time and those effects often get the job done for me.

* Seems to play with CPU and RAM nicely enough

* The basic UI layout makes clear, intuitive sense

* Software sampling is so much more convenient that hardware.

* Can ouput many other UVI-based virtual instrument libraries like USB Charlie and MOTU SI, offering some flexibility

* Handles AKAI samples great.

What I'm less fond of:

* The sample library it ships with. Not terrible, but not great either. I'd rather have ten great samples rather than fifty okay samples.

* Although it''ll import and convert Gigasamples, it doesn't translate keyswitches and other high-end sample tricks so it's a compromised solution in that case

* UI art direction looks ridiculously videogame-sci-fi (but doesn't quite dork out to the level that USB FXtreme does)

If I were to do it over again today, I'd likely reach for NI Kontakt 2. Better shipped sample library. But, I'd miss those UVI effects which, as I said, are pretty useful.
Thanks Chris...Do you have any problems w/any of the libraries your using w/Mach5?
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chrispick wrote:What I like:
I like it because it's mostly blue :)
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ADino wrote:Thanks Chris...Do you have any problems w/any of the libraries your using w/Mach5?
No, but I've only imported AKAI and older Gigasampler files. I haven't tried other formats yet; I haven't had the need. And the samples that ship with M5 operate fine, of course.

Just for clarity: I do like M5. It does what I expect it to do. No fuss, no muss.

I will say as time goes on I move away from general sample libraries and more toward dedicated virtual instruments. It's more expensive generally, but the quality differences are worth it for me.
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I love..the fact you can switch between preset, and part modes.
(M5 users understand..)

How many times I wished for that over the years...
I like it because it's mostly blue
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MIDILifeCrisis wrote:

I like it because it's mostly blue
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I'm mostly blue because version 2 hasn't shipped :-) .

But seriously, Mach Five has some very nice effects, whereby you can really morph, mangle, and alter your samples very effectively. The GUI to me is excellent, modern, slick, and pleasant on the eyes. It looks like a quality professional "hardware" piece of equipment. I thought perhaps I could record directly into the interface, but you must record through your DAW (Live 4 in my case). Getting to grips with loading of samples, etc, takes some doing, but I haven't really put in "the time" yet to really get to know the features. The loading of samples, layers etc it a bit confusing as far as first impressions go, but all of the included sample banks load just fine and sound very good. I'm still on the fence regarding whether or not I'll keep it, I qualify for the free upgrade to Mach Five version 2, so I'm holding out until I can see if that version warrants me keeping the program or selling it. Most of my sample collections are in Reason Refill or standard .wav/.aiff format, and import just fine into the NNXT or NN19 samplers in Reason, so the multi platform capability of Mach Five is lost on me. I bought it to explore without having fully checked it out, got it at a great price used, but had to go through a song and dance with MOTU to finally buy a new manual with new license number since the previous owner didn't have the manual. Eventually got it all worked out, but really just want version 2 (that's why I bought version 1 used, to qualify for the free upgrade to 2). I also bought based on Sound on Sound or Future Music recommending that this was the best sampler hands down. Also, Sweetwater's Pro Gear catalog mentions Mach Five is their customers' number one choice/most popular sampler purchase. I think if you are willing to spend the time to really learn the architecture and become adept at learning how to use Mach Five's file management systems, you'll be pleased with the quality of the sound engine and effects. But be advised, it is not as simple as "drag and drop" without a little studying and trial and error.

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