DP12 release date?

[greg328]

Wildly overdue! I hope for a more modern but still simple-to-use interface--I also hope they fix the Steinberg incompatibility issues--I'd love to be able to use Halion and Groove Agent--

I'm sure there are other things we all are hoping for!

Greg

[Michael Canavan]

Wildly overdue! I hope for a more modern but still simple-to-use interface--I also hope they fix the Steinberg incompatibility issues--I'd love to be able to use Halion and Groove Agent--

I'm sure there are other things we all are hoping for!

Greg

I agree, the UX of DP could use an overhaul. The issue there is just like getting consolidated MIDI tracks, they have a loyal set of users that are not interested in change to the interface. Something like Comping is buried, I don't use it that often but when I do I always have to reread the manual just to find the show comp tracks command, buried in a contextual menu. At this point in almost every DAW there is a quick way to get back to looking at all tracks beginning to end in the sequence window, in DP you have to set that up in Commands. They have made progress in making Clips integrated with free range MIDI, but Clips are still not editable in quite a few of DP's editors, and until that happens they basically took looping away from most people.

In general DP is like Reapers big brother, the more streamlined version, capable of anything but because of that, it's like wading through mud to get some basic things done. The current thread on importing audio is a great example, there are three sections in Preferences to look at to make sure you're not inadvertently converting sample format or stretching the audio to the current project tempo etc.

In general a lot of us that have used DP for decades do not realize how complicated the program has become, but it really is quite imposing if you're not familiar. Just setting up tracks in the Drum Editor is far more complicated than any other DAW.

Besides obvious new features like Atmos etc. support, I feel like a big user interface overhaul has been long overdue. If the various features integrated at a higher level it would be like getting new features, imagine Clips that work in every editor, plugin automation for Instruments and FX in V-Racks.

OK There are two features that would be completely new that DP could really really use IMO.

1.) Per plugin sandboxing- i.e. if you experience crashes that point to a particular plugin, you can check a box in audio plugin preferences that runs it as a separate process, so when it crashes is just crashes the plugin, not the DAW. Bitwig does this the best, but Reaper can do it on a per plugin basis.

2.) Universal plugin mapping- the ubiquitousness of control surfaces has some DAWs integrating a mapping system for plugin automation based on your preferences, you use a compressor all the time with 8-16 parameters, these are mapped to your control surface automatically not unlike Komplete Kontrol keyboards, but without a plugin wrapper or a specific controller like the KK keyboards etc. Komplete Kontrol is great and all, but mostly for searching for sounds, when I'm using a modern looping DAW like Live or Bitwig, their built in solution for control surfaces allows you to map whatever parameters you want to a plugin, and it will be called up in any song you write in the future.

Anyway, my long winded hopes and dreams for DP12.

[greg328]

All sounds great-and overdue. Here’s hoping-


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[aq]

Come on DP12, the wait is long.....

[HCMarkus]

The issue there is ... they have a loyal set of users that are not interested in change to the interface.

You got that right. And I am one of them.

For me, DP12 will be all about Atmos.

[mikehalloran]

I’d like to see another bug fix — if nothing else, undo the new ones introduced with 11.32. Other than that, I’m in no hurry for DP 12.

I think that Atmos is a safe bet. Likewise, there will be an AI component—all the other children are making noise about it, say a big “Fix everything” button? Will the long-awaited More Talent feature finally arrive?

[labman]

—all the other children are making noise about it, say a big “Fix everything” button? Will the long-awaited More Talent feature finally arrive?

[muxlow]

Is there an official feature request path with Motu?

[Michael Canavan]

Is there an official feature request path with Motu?

https://motu.com/en-us/suggestions/

[stubbsonic]

—all the other children are making noise about it, say a big “Fix everything” button? Will the long-awaited More Talent feature finally arrive?

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[James Steele]

Sort of a frivolous thought, but it's my humble opinion that it's time to drop the "Digital" from "Digital Performer." It's like the apps vestigial tail. Everything is digital now. Let's have Performer 12! I think it's a better name and it might just generate some additional coverage in the music tech press.

[dix]

Sort of a frivolous thought, but it's my humble opinion that it's time to drop the "Digital" from "Digital Performer." It's like the apps vestigial tail. Everything is digital now. Let's have Performer 12! I think it's a better name and it might just generate some additional coverage in the music tech press.

I respectfully disagree. That would obligate everyone to type out P-e-r-f-o-r-m-e-r every single time they refer to the app. "DP" is an efficient and nearly universal shorthand for Digital Performer - and just "P" wouldn't really work. Admittedly I'm a lazy sucky typer, but I think a lot of people would find typing it all out every time cumbersome.

[Michael Canavan]

Sort of a frivolous thought, but it's my humble opinion that it's time to drop the "Digital" from "Digital Performer." It's like the apps vestigial tail. Everything is digital now. Let's have Performer 12! I think it's a better name and it might just generate some additional coverage in the music tech press.

I respectfully disagree. That would obligate everyone to type out P-e-r-f-o-r-m-e-r every single time they refer to the app. "DP" is an efficient and nearly universal shorthand for Digital Performer - and just "P" wouldn't really work. Admittedly I'm a lazy sucky typer, but I think a lot of people would find typing it all out every time cumbersome.

My juvenile mind likes DP.
Plus I'm still ticked off they hide Mark Of The Unicorn, with MOTU.

[Michael Canavan]

And I'll say it, it's been years since DP was the most stable DAW on my system. One of the major reasons for flack is DP's tendency to crash when an AU or VST is sketchy, other DAWs on my system do have an easier time with plugins that are depreciated, old, or complicated. DP is the litmus test for whether a VST or AU is wonky, and apparently it's even worse on PC. Some sort of protection against crashy plugins is probably my most desired feature.

I have a lot of plugins, and pretty much every song I work on is Opus5 or Opus8 etc. before it gets completed, as some errant bug crashes DP. I would be worried, but watching the webinars, I see Matts versions in his Project folder are just as high. DP is grumpy as Matt calls it, and that needs to change. IMO the best method is what Bitwig does, sandboxing for each plugin, so only the plugin crashes. Takes seconds to pull the plugin back up and finish.

[James Steele]

Sort of a frivolous thought, but it's my humble opinion that it's time to drop the "Digital" from "Digital Performer." It's like the apps vestigial tail. Everything is digital now. Let's have Performer 12! I think it's a better name and it might just generate some additional coverage in the music tech press.

I respectfully disagree. That would obligate everyone to type out P-e-r-f-o-r-m-e-r every single time they refer to the app. "DP" is an efficient and nearly universal shorthand for Digital Performer - and just "P" wouldn't really work. Admittedly I'm a lazy sucky typer, but I think a lot of people would find typing it all out every time cumbersome.

Right... but already nobody wants to type out D-i-g-i-t-a-l P-e-r-f-o-r-m-e-r? So if you're some kid on a forum and you see posts and someone has "DP" in their signature, are they going to even bother to find out what it means these days, given what is probably a dwindling market share? It's my opinion a one word moniker works better than an acronym that is a shorthand that I don't think is as "universal" as we assume. Cubase... Logic... and even Pro Tools are easier to say and easy to write. And even though Pro Tools is two words... it's just two syllables like Cubase and Logic. Digital Performer is SIX SYLLABLES, which is why NOBODY actually says it. Performer is still three syllables. That's pushing it but it works for Nuendo.

I'm just not convinced that these days anybody but the MOTU faithful or "old timer" DAW people know or care what "DP" indicates... and many won't bother to find out. My two cents.