Digital Performer 11.23 released
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Digital Performer 11.23 released
Looks like MOTU released DP 11.23 today. It’s reported that it fixes the menu double click issue in Sonoma. Haven’t checked the release notes yet for any other fixes.
UPDATE:
Enhancements introduced in version 11.23
Fixes
• Fixed a bug causing the Mac menu bar to not activate without double-clicking on macOS Sonoma.
• Fixed a bug causing the titlebar height to appear incorrect on certain windows in macOS Sonoma.
• Fixed a menu bar text alignment bug in macOS Sonoma.
UPDATE:
Enhancements introduced in version 11.23
Fixes
• Fixed a bug causing the Mac menu bar to not activate without double-clicking on macOS Sonoma.
• Fixed a bug causing the titlebar height to appear incorrect on certain windows in macOS Sonoma.
• Fixed a menu bar text alignment bug in macOS Sonoma.
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Re: Digital Performer 11.23 released
Thanks James!
Yes, all those issues are now fixed for me.
Yes, all those issues are now fixed for me.
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Re: Digital Performer 11.23 released
Not on Sonoma yet but update is smooth here.
Performer Lite has not seen this update yet but there are no surprises there; PL usually lags when DP is updated.
OTOH, I was finally able to activate PL today. iLok, TLC and one PSP license were getting in the way but this is the first time that I have seen those messages so that I could deal with them. Now that I have worked through that mess, PL finally activated. I don't know why these issues didn't get in the way of DP—but they didn't.
Performer Lite has not seen this update yet but there are no surprises there; PL usually lags when DP is updated.
OTOH, I was finally able to activate PL today. iLok, TLC and one PSP license were getting in the way but this is the first time that I have seen those messages so that I could deal with them. Now that I have worked through that mess, PL finally activated. I don't know why these issues didn't get in the way of DP—but they didn't.
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Re: Digital Performer 11.23 released
Looks like the Sonoma fixes is all there is in the Mac version. I don't see the usual release notes anywhere.
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Re: Digital Performer 11.23 released
I see a Windows download but it may just be a re-naming to be consistent with the Mac version.
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Re: Digital Performer 11.23 released
I'm still on Monterey.. if I updated to anything, it would be Ventura. Does that mean I skip this version of DP?
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You want to skip Monterey, https://www.bluecataudio.com/Blog/tip-o ... e-silicon/Killahurts wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:45 pmI'm still on Monterey.. if I updated to anything, it would be Ventura. Does that mean I skip this version of DP?
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Re: Digital Performer 11.23 released
Thinking you mean "Skip Ventura," Mike...Michael Canavan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:38 pmYou want to skip Monterey, https://www.bluecataudio.com/Blog/tip-o ... e-silicon/Killahurts wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:45 pmI'm still on Monterey.. if I updated to anything, it would be Ventura. Does that mean I skip this version of DP?
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Re: Digital Performer 11.23 released
Ventura is pretty solid by now—the only app that has issues for me is DP* and it's minor. There are a number of apps that should not be run over Sonoma yet including Finale.HCMarkus wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:50 pmThinking you mean "Skip Ventura," Mike...Michael Canavan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:38 pmYou want to skip Monterey, https://www.bluecataudio.com/Blog/tip-o ... e-silicon/Killahurts wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:45 pm
I'm still on Monterey.. if I updated to anything, it would be Ventura. Does that mean I skip this version of DP?
*DP still shows output track numbers instead of names in BTD over Ventura. MOTU "is aware of this" but has yet to correct it. This is not how it looked in Monterey and earlier. Had I known, I would have stayed there on my iMP. Now that I have a Studio, I'm glad I updated on the other machine or this would have freaked me out a bit:
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Re: Digital Performer 11.23 released
If that's all they changed, I'll stand pat at 11.22 (on Monterey) until my album is finished.
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Re: Digital Performer 11.23 released
This appears to be an issue that is specific to Apple Silicon devices where macOS returns those names when using the built-in Mac audio, which causes new bundles to default to this naming upon creation. You should be able to get around this, at least in your BTD list, by going to your Bundles window and renaming the relevant output bundle(s) (opt/alt-click on the name in the list). The actual outputs themselves will retain this name in the Bundles window (at the top of your Outputs grid), but the outputs list in the BTD window should update accordingly.mikehalloran wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:13 pmVentura is pretty solid by now—the only app that has issues for me is DP* and it's minor. There are a number of apps that should not be run over Sonoma yet including Finale.HCMarkus wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:50 pmThinking you mean "Skip Ventura," Mike...Michael Canavan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:38 pm
You want to skip Monterey, https://www.bluecataudio.com/Blog/tip-o ... e-silicon/
*DP still shows output track numbers instead of names in BTD over Ventura. MOTU "is aware of this" but has yet to correct it. This is not how it looked in Monterey and earlier. Had I known, I would have stayed there on my iMP. Now that I have a Studio, I'm glad I updated on the other machine or this would have freaked me out a bit:
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Whoohoo! Thanks, Jared for sharing this. For those who aren't aware, Jared works at MOTU and is a freakin' genius. He has helped me get issues with EUCON support in DP worked out, just as one small example. Thank you for posting here, Jared!
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Re: Digital Performer 11.23 released
Nope. That screen shot could have been from my iMac Pro—the 'other machine' where I saw it first.motujared wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:05 amThis appears to be an issue that is specific to Apple Silicon devices where macOS returns those names when using the built-in Mac audio, which causes new bundles to default to this naming upon creation. You should be able to get around this, at least in your BTD list, by going to your Bundles window and renaming the relevant output bundle(s) (opt/alt-click on the name in the list). The actual outputs themselves will retain this name in the Bundles window (at the top of your Outputs grid), but the outputs list in the BTD window should update accordingly.mikehalloran wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:13 pm I'm glad I updated on the other machine or this would have freaked me out a bit:
Whereas MOTU fixed the Core Audio issue with 11.2x, they acknowledged that this is still a thing and that they were aware of it. As I have not updated to Sonoma, I was hoping for a fix. I have no doubt that MOTU is still aware of it.
Knowing about it is all I need. I am most definitely not going to rename all the bundles in all the projects that I open in Ventura.
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You don't have to say "they," Mike. You can say "you." Jared is a developer at MOTU and he tends to be pretty much on top of these things and is drawing from multiple reports at this point, most likely.mikehalloran wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:28 pmNope. That screen shot could have been from my iMac Pro—the 'other machine' where I saw it first.motujared wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:05 amThis appears to be an issue that is specific to Apple Silicon devices where macOS returns those names when using the built-in Mac audio, which causes new bundles to default to this naming upon creation. You should be able to get around this, at least in your BTD list, by going to your Bundles window and renaming the relevant output bundle(s) (opt/alt-click on the name in the list). The actual outputs themselves will retain this name in the Bundles window (at the top of your Outputs grid), but the outputs list in the BTD window should update accordingly.mikehalloran wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:13 pm I'm glad I updated on the other machine or this would have freaked me out a bit:
Whereas MOTU fixed the Core Audio issue with 11.2x, they acknowledged that this is still a thing and that they were aware of it. As I have not updated to Sonoma, I was hoping for a fix. I have no doubt that MOTU is still aware of it.
But way to make the MOTU rep feel welcome here!


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Re: Digital Performer 11.23 released
A) I don't know that — sorry Jared.James Steele wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 5:22 pmYou don't have to say "they," Mike. You can say "you." Jared is a developer at MOTU and he tends to be pretty much on top of these things and is drawing from multiple reports at this point, most likely.mikehalloran wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:28 pmNope. That screen shot could have been from my iMac Pro—the 'other machine' where I saw it first.motujared wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:05 am
This appears to be an issue that is specific to Apple Silicon devices where macOS returns those names when using the built-in Mac audio, which causes new bundles to default to this naming upon creation. You should be able to get around this, at least in your BTD list, by going to your Bundles window and renaming the relevant output bundle(s) (opt/alt-click on the name in the list). The actual outputs themselves will retain this name in the Bundles window (at the top of your Outputs grid), but the outputs list in the BTD window should update accordingly.
Whereas MOTU fixed the Core Audio issue with 11.2x, they acknowledged that this is still a thing and that they were aware of it. As I have not updated to Sonoma, I was hoping for a fix. I have no doubt that MOTU is still aware of it.
But way to make the MOTU rep feel welcome here!![]()
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b) I was quoting MOTU release notes from an earlier update about being "aware of it."
c) the screen shots were identical on my Intel Mac that I decommissioned yesterday and the M2 Studio I received a few days ago.
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