I'm looking to get my MOTU 324 PCI card to be recognized in my PC! The software I'm using is:
n-Track
Cool Edit Pro 2
Cubase LE
Acid 3.0
CD Architect 5
I have a MOTU 1224 into the 324 card, and need to find a motherboard that will accommodate this. MOTU says it won't support a PC with a motherboard as new as two years old.
I'm currently using a QDI KuDoz 7X/600 motherboard: AMD AthlonXP 3200+ cpu / VIA KT600 chipset, Southbridge 8235. 400FSB, PATA 133. This ain't working with the MOTU 324.
I don't have the $300.00 for the MOTU upgrade to the 424 PCI card- that would be too easy!
If you are using a MOTU 324 card in a PC, and any of the software apps I have listed above, would you be interested in posting your system? Specifically I need a motherboard that'll support my AMD cpu, and PATA rate of 133, and a 400 FSB.
Thanks!!
Anyone using 324 PCI card? I need your specs!
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Anyone using 324 PCI card? I need your specs!
"Whatever we do, it is what it is, and we do it".
i'm curious to know too, i'm trying to get a pci-324 to work with a soyo SY-P4I865PE Plus DRAGON 2 v1.0 (Prescott-Ready). so far it doesn't work, though i'm going to try motu tech support in the morning in the hope they can help me get it to work. if it fails, i might be looking for a new mobo too. where does one go to find a budget mobo that will work with a pci-324 properly?
is there a list somewhere?
is there a list somewhere?
MOTU told me I needed a 'board at least 2 years old. Can't remember right now what else! But, I looked at newegg.com, and there's some stuff there, as well as at bizrate.com.
You've got a P4, so you may be one step ahead of me. Have you checked out any of the available patches, fixes? I'll see if I can find 'em, and post 'em... there are some "March Drivers" that are supposed to work. I could e-mail you those, it's a zip folder.
Pm me your e-mail if you want, unless you can find 'em. Maybe I can hook that up too, unless JohnS is nearby...
You've got a P4, so you may be one step ahead of me. Have you checked out any of the available patches, fixes? I'll see if I can find 'em, and post 'em... there are some "March Drivers" that are supposed to work. I could e-mail you those, it's a zip folder.
Pm me your e-mail if you want, unless you can find 'em. Maybe I can hook that up too, unless JohnS is nearby...
"Whatever we do, it is what it is, and we do it".
Hi guys,
This has somehow come up a bunch just over the past couple weeks. (could be from people replacing their stuff with 424's
)
I just mentioned in a post here that this doesn't seem to be the best place for MOTU/Windows advice, and Altoidboy, I hate to keep bashing them, but I wouldn't expect much from MOTU on Windows advice either.
I've been a Nuendo user for a while, so I don't frequent many other DAW software forums, but their's and the Cubase one have been excellent for hardware setup and troubleshooting advice. I'm amazed at how much some of the people in there know.
Unfortunately, the current forums won't allow posting to the main categories without a dongle number on file, but you can read and search there. I've already spent way more than my daily online time today, so I may not get around to it, but I'll try to post in the hardware forum and see if I can dig up one or two of the former 324 users to find out what they had (or have).
If I catch anything, I'll try to bring it back here.
Take Care,
George
PS- P4 boards and Intel chipsets are often recommended, so I guess that's good for you. I've used AthlonXP's for the past couple studio machines, but I'm on a 424. Also, www.pricewatch.com is where I often go for good hardware prices (follow the motherboard or board/CPU combo links there). I've had good luck with the cheapest prices there (in the first couple result pages), but sometimes you can go up a couple bucks and get the same thing from someone on the next page who has a better rep with their customers. They're all more or less legit, if they're listed on PW, but there are a few nasty small places from time to time that don't last too long.
( www.resellerratings.com can usually give you an idea of who sucks )
This has somehow come up a bunch just over the past couple weeks. (could be from people replacing their stuff with 424's
)I just mentioned in a post here that this doesn't seem to be the best place for MOTU/Windows advice, and Altoidboy, I hate to keep bashing them, but I wouldn't expect much from MOTU on Windows advice either.
I've been a Nuendo user for a while, so I don't frequent many other DAW software forums, but their's and the Cubase one have been excellent for hardware setup and troubleshooting advice. I'm amazed at how much some of the people in there know.
Unfortunately, the current forums won't allow posting to the main categories without a dongle number on file, but you can read and search there. I've already spent way more than my daily online time today, so I may not get around to it, but I'll try to post in the hardware forum and see if I can dig up one or two of the former 324 users to find out what they had (or have).
If I catch anything, I'll try to bring it back here.
Take Care,
George
PS- P4 boards and Intel chipsets are often recommended, so I guess that's good for you. I've used AthlonXP's for the past couple studio machines, but I'm on a 424. Also, www.pricewatch.com is where I often go for good hardware prices (follow the motherboard or board/CPU combo links there). I've had good luck with the cheapest prices there (in the first couple result pages), but sometimes you can go up a couple bucks and get the same thing from someone on the next page who has a better rep with their customers. They're all more or less legit, if they're listed on PW, but there are a few nasty small places from time to time that don't last too long.
( www.resellerratings.com can usually give you an idea of who sucks )
Got some feedback!
Sloom and all interested--
I put that message up in the Nuendo hardware forum a couple days ago and, as I expected, I did get some pretty solid recommendations.
I'll wait another day or two to see if anymore good stuff comes in, and then I'll put a small list up here. I really wished Bredo (not king Fredo) had given some brand details. He seems to have had a bunch. FWIW- most of the people in there are pretty heavy hitters, so I'd suspect that if they used to run a 324 and are comfortable recommending a host, it's probably not going to be one with any significant audio problems or conflicts. The Cubase forum probably has more mid-range project studio guys, so there may be (or have been) even more 324's in there, but it looks like the Nuendo thread turned up plenty to work with. It's a real shame that MOTU didn't bother compiling such a list back when the stuff was halfway current, rather than just writing things off as "incompatible". It may have saved some people a bunch of money and frustration, maybe even earning them a better support and product reputation. It really didn't take all that much effort.
You'll be glad to know most of the stuff they mention looks to only be in the 75, and even 50 dollar range these days (after a brief Pricewatch.com scan). Should be even less on eBay. I just noticed one of the MSi's on eBay went for 30, and another, with an XP1400, ended at 36. Might be worth just grabbing a board, rather than upgrading/replacing the card, or giving yourself any hardware headaches.
I also have a suspicion that decent boards from the same generation, who share a common chipset or circuitry, may also be similar in hardware compatibility or performance. I asked in there, but didn't get anything yet. They may have missed it in my usual "lengthy" post. There were also some boards back then which were known to be similar, or even from the same source. ECS and someone else (MSi maybe) had models with almost the same names and specs.
Hope to be back soon,
George
I put that message up in the Nuendo hardware forum a couple days ago and, as I expected, I did get some pretty solid recommendations.
I'll wait another day or two to see if anymore good stuff comes in, and then I'll put a small list up here. I really wished Bredo (not king Fredo) had given some brand details. He seems to have had a bunch. FWIW- most of the people in there are pretty heavy hitters, so I'd suspect that if they used to run a 324 and are comfortable recommending a host, it's probably not going to be one with any significant audio problems or conflicts. The Cubase forum probably has more mid-range project studio guys, so there may be (or have been) even more 324's in there, but it looks like the Nuendo thread turned up plenty to work with. It's a real shame that MOTU didn't bother compiling such a list back when the stuff was halfway current, rather than just writing things off as "incompatible". It may have saved some people a bunch of money and frustration, maybe even earning them a better support and product reputation. It really didn't take all that much effort.
You'll be glad to know most of the stuff they mention looks to only be in the 75, and even 50 dollar range these days (after a brief Pricewatch.com scan). Should be even less on eBay. I just noticed one of the MSi's on eBay went for 30, and another, with an XP1400, ended at 36. Might be worth just grabbing a board, rather than upgrading/replacing the card, or giving yourself any hardware headaches.
I also have a suspicion that decent boards from the same generation, who share a common chipset or circuitry, may also be similar in hardware compatibility or performance. I asked in there, but didn't get anything yet. They may have missed it in my usual "lengthy" post.
There were also some boards back then which were known to be similar, or even from the same source. ECS and someone else (MSi maybe) had models with almost the same names and specs.Hope to be back soon,
George
George,
Thanks for the lengthy post! !!
I've sent off for another card, but I still do have the MOTU... and would use it if I could without more dastardly expense. So far the expense has been time, and time not doing music. So hey, I'm gonna hang around and see if you come up with anything!
I'll go look too, but time is trouble as I've got a full house of kids and home support going on here. I'm not being the most efficient at getting my homework done- but I'll say that there sure is a lot of it (since MOTU doesn't appear to do any!).
Thanks for the lengthy post!
!!I've sent off for another card, but I still do have the MOTU... and would use it if I could without more dastardly expense. So far the expense has been time, and time not doing music. So hey, I'm gonna hang around and see if you come up with anything!
I'll go look too, but time is trouble as I've got a full house of kids and home support going on here. I'm not being the most efficient at getting my homework done- but I'll say that there sure is a lot of it (since MOTU doesn't appear to do any!).
"Whatever we do, it is what it is, and we do it".
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ultrafinriz
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I have a ABIT IS7-G, 2.4Ght pentium, and the 324 card.
There are issues with the front side buss speed on newer motherboards that run DDR2 ram. Apparently Intel 865PE chips are good. You can slow down the FSB in your BIOS.
Best of luck!
Also I can only run the hardware with a 1024 buffer setting and utilizing wav drivers.
Jesse Olley
UltraFinRiz
There are issues with the front side buss speed on newer motherboards that run DDR2 ram. Apparently Intel 865PE chips are good. You can slow down the FSB in your BIOS.
Best of luck!
Also I can only run the hardware with a 1024 buffer setting and utilizing wav drivers.
Jesse Olley
UltraFinRiz
Jesse,
Helpful info I'd imagine!
It reminds me to go see what Gualso ended up doing. I feel like I sort of deserted him.
Yeah, I was going to recommend some of that bus/RAM/PCI timing crap in the BIOS to him, but I wasn't sure he'd want to deal with that just yet. I'd almost think that if it would get recognized and "sort of" work at all, there'd be a good chance you might be able to tweak or slow something down on that level, to get the whole thing going (assuming the interface & card were OK). Lots of them will have those parameters these days. I thought in Gualso's 324 thread, I had dug up something about Intel BIOS'es not having as much of it, but apparently they've got enough on some. There's also modified (hacked) BIOS'es for some stuff, which will get you all sorts of weird hidden parameters.
--> not sure how happy most people get at the prospect of "bumping the speed down" on all their new hardware though
Those last prefs you mention are a surprise. Do you mean it doesn't work with it's dedicated ASIO driver? It seems usually the WDM stuff is a lower priority choice for studio work. The 1024 also sounds pretty high for a new machine like that. Are you referring to settings you need for heavy multi-track stuff, or is that merely to get "noise-free" audio going on a two channel mix or something? (which app too?)
Take Care,
George
Helpful info I'd imagine!
It reminds me to go see what Gualso ended up doing. I feel like I sort of deserted him.
Yeah, I was going to recommend some of that bus/RAM/PCI timing crap in the BIOS to him, but I wasn't sure he'd want to deal with that just yet. I'd almost think that if it would get recognized and "sort of" work at all, there'd be a good chance you might be able to tweak or slow something down on that level, to get the whole thing going (assuming the interface & card were OK). Lots of them will have those parameters these days. I thought in Gualso's 324 thread, I had dug up something about Intel BIOS'es not having as much of it, but apparently they've got enough on some. There's also modified (hacked) BIOS'es for some stuff, which will get you all sorts of weird hidden parameters.
--> not sure how happy most people get at the prospect of "bumping the speed down" on all their new hardware though
Those last prefs you mention are a surprise. Do you mean it doesn't work with it's dedicated ASIO driver? It seems usually the WDM stuff is a lower priority choice for studio work. The 1024 also sounds pretty high for a new machine like that. Are you referring to settings you need for heavy multi-track stuff, or is that merely to get "noise-free" audio going on a two channel mix or something? (which app too?)
Take Care,
George
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ultrafinriz
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I was wrong about the console buffer size. I'm set to 256. I had big troubles when set to other settings. I rarely monitor more than a stereo pair through CueMix. The 'legacy wav support' has to be checked for me or I don't see all the I/O in my software. I use old Cool Edit Pro, Sound Forge, & Vegas (3, 5, 6.)
Jesse
Jesse