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Re: DP10.11 - Pausing multiple times during offline bounce

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dix wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 6:10 pm A good guess, but even on a new project, created from my user created Starter Template, with only one native plugin (FabFilter-ProL2) on one track, I get the issue most of the time whether DP is running native or in Rosetta.
Hmm... and if you substitute a MOTU plug for FabFilter, I'm guessing it goes away? Might be worthwhile to report this to MOTU to see if they can track this down. I've had a couple of little issues with third party plugs in DP that don't seem to happen in other DAWs. One involved a VI (the plug was not native) that could not see incoming MIDI data played on my controller keyboard or from a MIDI track targeting that VI.

Come to think of it, it was probably related to DP's "mixed environment" that can run native and non-native plugs in the same project when DP is launched AS-native. If I launched DP in Rosetta2 there was no problem. And of course, Pro Tools had no issue but then Pro Tools is not AS-native yet. I hardly ever use Pro Tools, but even still... Avid isn't it about time you got your you-know-what-together and released a native Pro Tools. Especially since you're moving your users to subscription and charging a premium?
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Re: DP10.11 - Pausing multiple times during offline bounce

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Hmm... and if you substitute a MOTU plug for FabFilter, I'm guessing it goes away?
Correct. It doesn’t happen with the MW Limiter or other MOTU plug-ins. It does seem to be third party plug-ins only that cause it. I’ll report to MOTU for sure, but I was curious if it’s happening for others.
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dix wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 6:35 pm
Hmm... and if you substitute a MOTU plug for FabFilter, I'm guessing it goes away?
Correct. It doesn’t happen with the MW Limiter or other MOTU plug-ins. It does seem to be third party plug-ins only that cause it. I’ll report to MOTU for sure, but I was curious if it’s happening for others.
I will try to test soon. Hopefully someone else can try it also. Like I said, I'm still in the middle of a studio rework/transition.
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Re: DP10.11 - Pausing multiple times during offline bounce

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Confirmation would be nice. Since this thread is from awhile back, I was mainly just wondering if it was still an issue for users, and if a workaround was found. ...I remember seeing this post, but I don't think I had this problem with DP10 actually
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It looks like DP11.2 fixes this. The issue was intermittent for me, but so far so good.
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Re: DP10.11 - Pausing multiple times during offline bounce

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Hey all.

Sorry to hear that people are still seeing the pausing issues in DP11. (I haven't updated to DP11 since I'm on other platforms now.)

A few weeks ago, I had to load an old DP session with DP10.11 to bounce something out of it. Right on the first bounce, I got the pauses.....argh.....I haven't had a bounce issue in years with the other DAWs.......It's so unfortunate that this has been a lingering issue for so many years---since 2015 when DP9 was released.....7 years ago....

I hope 11.2 can alleviate the issue for you.

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Re: DP10.11 - Pausing multiple times during offline bounce

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Gabe S. wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:15 pm Hey all.

Sorry to hear that people are still seeing the pausing issues in DP11.

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I hope 11.2 can alleviate the issue for you.
It looks like it has from the post just above yours.
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Re: DP10.11 - Pausing multiple times during offline bounce

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I stated a tech-link with MOTU support about this problem back in March 2022 and have had a lot of help from
Travis Hagan. He suggested many different things to try, including links to the latest versions of DP, none of which worked until DP 11.21, which I have been using for about 3 weeks and it seems this has been fixed, lots of off line bounces to wav and MP3, all very quick with no hangs at all.

Hope it works for everyone, many thanks Travis.
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thanks for the update Ken!
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Re: DP10.11 - Pausing multiple times during offline bounce

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I had this same problem for 4 years now. Recently the last upgrade of DP to 11.21 and it has not happened since then. It was the worst bug...
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