UPDATE: Beyond Black v2.3 Now Available***
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I just had a DP crash and I wouldn't have thought to blame the BB Theme. After all, DP has ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS been my crashiest program-- even and perhaps especially on the new M1 MBP running Monterey. [edit: I should add that this is the first time I've seen the message about running out of application memory, which led me to this page below. I have 64 GB, so I should be good there, and only had a handful of little apps open.]
I did just find one source that suggests that a custom cursor might be a cause.
https://osxdaily.com/2021/12/03/your-sy ... mac-error/
And I notice that this theme does use a custom cursor.
I did just find one source that suggests that a custom cursor might be a cause.
https://osxdaily.com/2021/12/03/your-sy ... mac-error/
And I notice that this theme does use a custom cursor.
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Crashiest, really? Why do you think DP is so crashy for you stubbs, when it's solid for the rest of us? I've had no crashes since installing BB, and very very very few on my M1 Max before that.
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- Rick Cornish
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stubbsonic……stubbsonic wrote:I just had a DP crash and I wouldn't have thought to blame the BB Theme. After all, DP has ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS been my crashiest program-- even and perhaps especially on the new M1 MBP running Monterey. [edit: I should add that this is the first time I've seen the message about running out of application memory, which led me to this page below. I have 64 GB, so I should be good there, and only had a handful of little apps open.]
I did just find one source that suggests that a custom cursor might be a cause.
https://osxdaily.com/2021/12/03/your-sy ... mac-error/
And I notice that this theme does use a custom cursor.
Sorry to hear you’re having system problems. From personal experience, I haven’t had a DP crash in over 6 months.
I can’t imagine how BB2.3 could have caused your crash, but it’s simple to choose another theme and see if it repeats itself. Please let us know if that happens.
Meanwhile, if you want to continue using BB and you really think the wiper cursor is crashing your machine, PM me and I’ll give you instructions on how to replace it.
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Rick Cornish wrote: ↑Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:09 am stubbsonic……
Sorry to hear you’re having system problems. From personal experience, I haven’t had a DP crash in over 6 months.
My only guess is that it is some combo of things like maybe Rogue Amoeba's various elements (Loopback? ACE?, etc?) DP's crash-prone behavior goes back further than my use of RA tools.
What is new about this crash is that the Mac OS (FINALLY!) gave me some info about the cause, saying that I had run out of application memory. What is comforting is that this is a known Monterey bug, and a fix may be on the way.Rick Cornish wrote: ↑Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:09 am I can’t imagine how BB2.3 could have caused your crash, but it’s simple to choose another theme and see if it repeats itself. Please let us know if that happens.
I will try out another theme. Since this particular crash (with a warning of the memory issue) is new, I can watch for it.
And yes, I would like to get instructions to revert the custom cursor back to the defaults.
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Cool. I may have time to write it out later today… not hard, but requires careful attention.I'll PM you later with the instructions.stubbsonic wrote: ↑Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:48 am And yes, I would like to get instructions to revert the custom cursor back to the defaults.
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I reverted to a different theme, and today I had the same crash where DP becomes unresponsive, spinning beach ball, then eventually Mac OS automatically brings up the Force Quit option-- and reports about running out of application memory. So whatever is happening, it's likely not due to the theme at all, or perhaps it is due to DP's use of custom cursors in a general way.
I don't have a clue how to read crash reports. I wish I had an option to send the crash report to MOTU (as well as Apple).
I don't have a clue how to read crash reports. I wish I had an option to send the crash report to MOTU (as well as Apple).
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I received the download, double-clicked it and it asked for me to choose an application to open it. I thought it was a zip and it didn't open. Am i getting it wrong?
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I can't mine to unzip.
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Worked here. In fact, zips usually unzip automatically when they've finished downloading. There is a system option to automatically open downloads if they are considered safe (by whom, I don't know). Even if they don't, double clicking always works here.
Maybe you didn't get a complete download?
Maybe you didn't get a complete download?
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Guys…..midilance wrote:I received the download, double-clicked it and it asked for me to choose an application to open it. I thought it was a zip and it didn't open. Am i getting it wrong?
If you want to use it, do this:
1. Download and unpack the zip archive.
2. Mac users: Drop the file "Beyond_Black-v2.4.bundle" into [your system drive]->Library->Application Support->MOTU->Digital Performer->Themes (if you don't see "Library" just hold down your option key and click on the "Go" menu in the Finder)
For Windows users, a member suggested C:\ProgramData\MOTU\Digital Performer\Themes\
3. Open DP, then Preferences, click on "Themes" and select "Beyond_Black-v2.4”
***As always, use at your own risk. I take no responsibility for any issues that may arise on your particular system. BB2.X has been used successfully on both Macs and PCs and in both DP10 and DP11.***
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My basic problem is I can't unpack the bundle. Any suggestions?
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Success! The file I received had no ".zip" at the end of it's name. I added it to the name and entered it in themes and Voila!
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Please re-read the instructions.midilance wrote:My basic problem is I can't unpack the bundle. Any suggestions?
You just need to unpack the ZIP.
(You don’t unpack the bundle.)
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I don't think I understand but, at least I got to install it. Great job. Have a ball with your guitar.
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