Bounce to disc issues

[Mark Salore]

Hi
My first post just join the group
Here's my issue and I'm hoping someone can assist me

Issue I am having:
I am using Digital performer 10.13 with Mojave on a Mac

I am using multiple virtual instruments but the particular one I having an issue with his IK multimedia B – 3X Hammond organ simulator

I have an organ track in which throughout the track I am adjusting volume, Leslie on and off and a drawer bar control.

When I play back the track in real-time everything is smooth.
When I bounced to disc it seems like the controllers adjusting the Volume, Leslie and drawbar act erratically and do not engage at the proper moment of the track that they are supposed to.

It seems like they are reacting late, so at the beginning of the measure when I want a volume drop it seems to drop about 1 beat into the new measure.
I do have the latest version of the Hammond plug-in 1.3.1

I have tried copying the track to a brand-new file in case there was some corruption and the same thing happened with no change.

When I freeze the track and turn it into an audio file and then bounce it down it does function properly.

So the obvious issue here is the bounce to disc and the Hammond B3 virtual plug-in functioning properly with their controllers when it is being bounced

I am on a Mac mini 2018 maxed out with ram and hard disk and processor

Any suggestions would be appreciated

[bayswater]

There are many very long threads on Bounce to Disk problems on this board. I don't think anyone has come up with a clear solution. Some people get bad timing, missing tails, crashes and so on. Others, like me, have never had a problem with this function. Browsing the threads might help but I doubt it.

As you mentioned, Freezing tracks works. You can then just drag the audio in the track to the desktop to "bounce" it. Others set up their projects (templates) with busses, auxes channels and audio tracks to do real time recordings of VI tracks to audio tracks as part of their overall process. E.g., I often route VI outputs via busses to audio tracks, which have monitoring on (blue button) on to hear the VI. Then, when it all sounds right, clicking the record button on these audio tracks gets a prints of the instruments.

Probably, freezing and routing to record in real time do pretty much the same thing.

[Mark Salore]

Thank you for the reply
If you don’t use the bounce to disk, how do you make or output a final mix from a project?

[mikehalloran]

I don't think this is a BTD issue at all.

I am using multiple virtual instruments but the particular one I having an issue with his IK multimedia B – 3X Hammond organ simulator

You don't say what instrument you are using to host the VI but I experienced this in SampleTank 3 after I upgraded to Mojave.

The cure was easy. I downloaded the free SampleTank 4 CS. Like UVI, the ST Instrument player in all versions is the same—the differences between the free (CS) and various paid versions are in the number of libraries you get.

ST4 is way different and not intuitive. You want to watch the getting started videos so you know what to do. It is fully backward compatible with any libraries that worked in ST3 including Miroslav and various IK stand-alone instruments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aveP32NHfS0

[Mark Salore]

I thought I mentioned
I’m using IK multimedia B – 3X Hammond simulator version 1.3.2
It’s standalone

[bayswater]

Thank you for the reply
If you don’t use the bounce to disk, how do you make or output a final mix from a project?

Route the final output to an Aux which routes to an Audio channel or directly to an Audio channel which then routes to the master. Do a real time recording of the final mix to that Audio channel, and then find the two channel audio file in the Audio folder or drag it from the track to the desktop.

You can also route the outputs to a two track recorder like DSP-Quattro via something like Soundflower or Blackhole, and record it there. I think some do this with Audacity or Rogue Amoeba Audio Hijak, and I suppose you can do it with GarageBand too. I used DSP-Q because I like the metering and analysis.

[HCMarkus]

Thank you for the reply
If you don’t use the bounce to disk, how do you make or output a final mix from a project?

Route the final output to an Aux which routes to an Audio channel or directly to an Audio channel which then routes to the master. Do a real time recording of the final mix to that Audio channel, and then find the two channel audio file in the Audio folder or drag it from the track to the desktop.

This.

[Michael Canavan]

I've got an even worse bounce issue. Starting a different thread to not derail this one.
There is no logical reason we shouldn't be able to use bounce to disk though.