crashes in 10.11

[HCMarkus]

Just as a note: I've been using Waves plug-ins since 1998, and have never had a problem with any of them.

You've probably forgotten about the time Waves abandoned support for DP for about 18 months. I think it was circa 2011/2012. I can't remember what DP version was out then, but Waves continued to charge WUP to its users even though the product did not work with DP. Some users were granted WUP extensions, but if you didn't fall into a certain window with your WUP renewal date you were outa luck. And worst of all the plug-ins were useless for over a year. I would call that a problem with Waves plug-ins.

I remember that period. Waves gave me an extension, I think. I can't remember whether their plugs actually continued working for me... it was in the DP5 era, IIRC.

I do know for sure that the prices for Waves plugs has dropped hugely and bigly since I purchased Waves Gold for $999 in 2003. If you are patient, the same package can now be picked up for $99 every once in a while.

[bayswater]

You've probably forgotten about the time Waves abandoned support for DP for about 18 months. I think it was circa 2011/2012.

I thought I remembered something like that. Not to give excuses for Waves WUP fiascos, but the "no support" was for current versions at the time. Earlier versions worked fine. And the newer versions worked with other apps. I keep waves because for me the plugins themselves justify Waves' marketing and accounting practises. I don't buy the argument that installing Waves buggers up your system.

[bayswater]

If you are patient, the same package can now be picked up for $99 every once in a while.

Not counting the $999 WUP.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

And yet people still buy their stuff. I don’t support bad behavior from companies or individuals.

[HCMarkus]

If you are patient, the same package can now be picked up for $99 every once in a while.

Not counting the $999 WUP.

I hear you, but that is just a tiny exaggeration, no?

I run Waves without WUPping. Every once in a while, it may be required, but it does get you equal credit toward more Waves stuff for every WUP dollar spent. Last time I upgraded, moving to Platinum or some other such package, while on sale for a vey reasonable price, the WUPgrade was free.

Say what you want about its pricing model, but the plugins see a lot of use in a lot of studios, mine included.

Following up on my "Gold for $99" comment, I took a look at the current price... a few days ago, Gold was selling for $149 (use AudioDeluxe and save a bit off that price), but today Gold is at $249. I am pretty sure the $99 price will roll around again at some point. When it comes to plugins, we are talking about a product that primarily involves fixed costs; making another copy costs the manufacturer zero dollars. As a result, sales are and will continue to be a definite thing in the plugin world. Form the consumer's perspective, timing is everything.

[cvtonyd]

I agree, most of my Waves plugs, even popular ones, I've waited and grabbed at $29. . . audio deluxe mailings are helpful.

[bayswater]

If you are patient, the same package can now be picked up for $99 every once in a while.

Not counting the $999 WUP.

I hear you, but that is just a tiny exaggeration, no?

Yes, a bit. But it would be close to the regular price of Gold after a couple of WUP years, whatever that it. When I've bought Waves plugins during the no brainer sales, I noticed that the WUP cost to support the new plugins was comparable to the regular price of these plugins. It seemed to me these plugins were loss leaders for WUPs and maybe other plugins.

I like the Waves plugin I have, and like you, don't WUP other than once when they first started doing this. That got me to V9 from V5 for very little, and I've bought a few V10 plugs since. They all work fine and I like them. But I don't find Waves the must have collection that it once was. If they stopped working, I'd have to think about whether I really needed to update them. Their campaigns to sell famous name plugins, and their later effort to turn our Macs into Abbey Road didn't really inspire me.

[HCMarkus]

Their campaigns to sell famous name plugins, and their later effort to turn our Macs into Abbey Road didn't really inspire me.

I'm with you there, for sure.

[waterstrum]

The original topic is 'crashes in 10.11'
No crashes here from Waves plugs in DP 10.11

I'm thinking we might move some of the recent discussions to a Waves thread.
Love 'em or hate 'em, Waves is/are currently supporting DP.

BTW, I'm loving the Abbey Road plugs.
A couple of them are secret weapons for my mixes.
Have you really checked them out?

No fish in this hunt.
Just want a fair slate for all.

[HCMarkus]

The original topic is 'crashes in 10.11'
No crashes here from Waves plugs in DP 10.11

I'm thinking we might move some of the recent discussions to a Waves thread.
Love 'em or hate 'em, Waves is/are currently supporting DP.

BTW, I'm loving the Abbey Road plugs.
A couple of them are secret weapons for my mixes.
Have you really checked them out?

No fish in this hunt.
Just want a fair slate for all.

If they work for you, that it great. I am serious, and no offense was intended. Whatever tool works is the one to use!

[bayswater]

BTW, I'm loving the Abbey Road plugs.
A couple of them are secret weapons for my mixes.
Have you really checked them out?

I bought the TG channel strip when it went on one of those 99% off sales. It's fine, stable, efficient, convenient etc, and fits nicely in some tracks.