Shifting tracks to the left ALWAYS crashes if audio zeroed

[mhschmieder]

I think this one has been with us since the previous update, but I scrolled back a few pages and didn't see it listed yet. I keep putting off reporting it as I wasn't sure if it was spurious until some project work this past week put me into a workflow where I ended up in a repeatable cycle that was invariant.

I always consolidate and zero my audio tracks -- at least, after recording individual segments. I know it wastes disc space, but it makes for fewer problems when collaborating with others, or when loading audio from projects after a project crashes or after a major update to DP. Anyway, that's my workflow, and it may not be a common one.

For quite some time now (at least a few months), if I experiment with timing between different parts (for tightness) by shifting an audio track to the left, it ALWAYS crashes DP, when I'm in Tracks View. Unless I first delete the left-most audio (which is always blank due to count-ins). This is 100% repeatable.

As long as I remember, I avoid the problem, but it also means taking extra steps to prevent it, and then remembering to use the Undo buffer afterwards. The fact that this happens when no VI's or processing plug-ins are engaged, or even other audio tracks play-enabled, means that I have assumed that so many people run into this that it was long ago reported and slated for fixing. But the last update didn't fix it yet, so maybe I am the first to report it?

[mikehalloran]

Hmmm... I use the Sequence window where I’ve never run into this.

I’ll have to try the Tracks window to see If I can reproduce this.

[mhschmieder]

I live in the Tracks window, but should give the Sequence window another go now that it has been enhanced with so many redundancies from the Tracks window, allowing for way more flexible workflow.

As almost everything I do has a gazillion instruments, so much also involves triggered VI's vs. miked instruments -- many appearing only for a few bars -- and as I often need to switch modes for different tasks, the Tracks window is one of the main reasons I could never get on with competing DAW's (none of which have anything remotely like it).

I have historically used the Sequence window for take comping, audio editing and adjustments, fades, merges, etc. But most of my time (until finalization and mixing) is spent with arrangement details, extending pieces, adding parts, and thus I always start each session in Tracks view.