Difference between host buffer size and host safety offset?
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Re: Difference between host buffer size and host safety offs
I read it to mean it adds the Safety Buffer amount to the Host Buffer amount for total buffer amount. You have a PC... why not experiment and see what happens?
If my understanding is correct, you should be able to run the Safety Buffer at 0 if the Host Buffer is anything beyond the bare minimum your hardware will support. In other words, leaving the Safety Buffer where it is by default, run a test project with varying Host Buffer sizes and find the lowest Host Buffer that will run without issue. Then bump the Host Buffer up by one increment, reduce the Safety Buffer to 0 (don't reduce more than increase in Host Buffer you just made), and see if there are issues.
Let us know what you discover!
If my understanding is correct, you should be able to run the Safety Buffer at 0 if the Host Buffer is anything beyond the bare minimum your hardware will support. In other words, leaving the Safety Buffer where it is by default, run a test project with varying Host Buffer sizes and find the lowest Host Buffer that will run without issue. Then bump the Host Buffer up by one increment, reduce the Safety Buffer to 0 (don't reduce more than increase in Host Buffer you just made), and see if there are issues.
Let us know what you discover!
Re: Difference between host buffer size and host safety offs
I've changed the host safety values but no change in latency as i hear it. It's set to Max now 128
Re: Difference between host buffer size and host safety offs
But still wondering what it is. Apparently none can tell
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Re: Difference between host buffer size and host safety offs
Certainly no one with a Mac, as there is no Safety Buffer under macOS. 

Re: Difference between host buffer size and host safety offs
Google implies that the safety buffer is specific to USB. That suggests the purpose of this buffer is to address problems with communications between devices ((like the audio interface and the computer) that may be interrupted when Windows waiters off to do something it considers more important than your project. That would distinguish it from the usual buffer that deals with audio already in the processing stage, and explain why you have to add the two to get the total latency.
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Re: Difference between host buffer size and host safety offs
Ok good to know.
Seems that the max setting doesn't change allot latency. So it's safest.
Seems that the max setting doesn't change allot latency. So it's safest.
Re: Difference between host buffer size and host safety offs
That would make sense in my Komplete Audio 6 control panel. Two buffers - Process Buffer which is what the DAW shows and a USB Buffer measured in milliseconds.bayswater wrote:Google implies that the safety buffer is specific to USB.
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Re: Difference between host buffer size and host safety offs
Hi....It's good to see MOTU allowing for super low buffer settings.Some folks will be able to make effective use of them... others won't (depending on performance/load).Let circumstances (performance/load) dictate your limitations... rather than the driver imposing (dumbed down) hard limits.
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