Beware of DP 10 demo...
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Beware of DP 10 demo...
I have been using DP Control app with my iPhone 4 to remote control DP 9.52 and it has worked pretty good in most commands (still won't save without crashing app).
However, Demoing DP 10 the other day made the "open sound control" driver in Control Surface Setup disappear is DP 9.52.
I renamed DP 9.52 to "Digital Performer 9.52" before installing DP 10 so it would not overwrite 9.52.
DP 10 shows "open sound control" in it's Control Surface Setup window, but it is gone when I open 9.52.
Unfortunately, the studio is down until I figure this out. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
TnMike
However, Demoing DP 10 the other day made the "open sound control" driver in Control Surface Setup disappear is DP 9.52.
I renamed DP 9.52 to "Digital Performer 9.52" before installing DP 10 so it would not overwrite 9.52.
DP 10 shows "open sound control" in it's Control Surface Setup window, but it is gone when I open 9.52.
Unfortunately, the studio is down until I figure this out. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
TnMike
Mac Pro Intel 2010, 16 gigs RAM, Apollo Quad, 2408 mkIII, Raven Mti2, UAD-2, MTPAV, Superior Drummer 3.0 drums, Ivory piano, B4 organ, PodProxt, Kemper, Ozone 9, Apogee Mini-Me, Roland R-8
Re: Beware of DP 10 demo...
I haven't tried that yet. Does reinstalling DP 9.52 overwrite of your preferences and templates?
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Re: Beware of DP 10 demo...
Before you do more changes, make sure you create a clone of whatever's left of your workable system first.
NEVER install software, especially new software, in an otherwise working machine without making a clone first! Doing that clone, in a worse-case-scenario, is the difference between spending 2 minutes to return things to normal and wasting hours or days chasing unknown new problems and unnecessary stress.
In your case, I hope reinstalling DP9 is enough and there are no consequences... Ask Jim about it...
NEVER install software, especially new software, in an otherwise working machine without making a clone first! Doing that clone, in a worse-case-scenario, is the difference between spending 2 minutes to return things to normal and wasting hours or days chasing unknown new problems and unnecessary stress.
In your case, I hope reinstalling DP9 is enough and there are no consequences... Ask Jim about it...

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Re: Beware of DP 10 demo...
Is there not a way to roll back to an earlier version using Time Machine?FMiguelez wrote:NEVER install software, especially new software, in an otherwise working machine without making a clone first!...
My understanding is no, it does not. I've reinstalled many times over the years and templates and prefs remain.TnMike wrote:I haven't tried that yet. Does reinstalling DP 9.52 overwrite of your preferences and templates?
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Re: Beware of DP 10 demo...
There is, but nowhere near as convenient as popping an SSD in a case... literally, 10 seconds -no consequences.dix wrote:Is there not a way to roll back to an earlier version using Time Machine?FMiguelez wrote:NEVER install software, especially new software, in an otherwise working machine without making a clone first!...
If the OP had done this on a test disk, he wouldn't even need to do that... Simply restart the computer as usual and back in business immediately, as if nothing had ever happened and DP10 was just a bad dream.
Mac Mini Server i7 2.66 GHs/16 GB RAM / OSX 10.14 / DP 9.52
Tascam DM-24, MOTU Track 16, all Spectrasonics' stuff,
Vienna Instruments SUPER PACKAGE, Waves Mercury, slaved iMac and Mac Minis running VEP 7, etc.
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Tascam DM-24, MOTU Track 16, all Spectrasonics' stuff,
Vienna Instruments SUPER PACKAGE, Waves Mercury, slaved iMac and Mac Minis running VEP 7, etc.
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Re: Beware of DP 10 demo...
I see. The only problem is that clones don't have Recovery partitions - the ones created with SuperDuper on El Cap don't anyway. Is there a way to create clones that can boot into Recovery mode if need be?FMiguelez wrote:There is, but nowhere near as convenient as popping an SSD in a case... literally, 10 seconds.dix wrote:Is there not a way to roll back to an earlier version using Time Machine?FMiguelez wrote:NEVER install software, especially new software, in an otherwise working machine without making a clone first!...
If this were a test disk, he wouldn't even need to do that... simply restart the computer as usual and back in business immediately.
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Re: Beware of DP 10 demo...
CCC can create the Recovery partitions for you.dix wrote:I see. The only problem is that clones don't have Recovery partitions - the ones created with SuperDuper on El Cap don't anyway. Is there a way to create clones that can boot into Recovery mode if need be?
It always asks you automatically if you want one when it detects a system disk without the recovery partition.
I LOVE this program! It really brings peace of mind for in-addition-to-TM backups!
Mac Mini Server i7 2.66 GHs/16 GB RAM / OSX 10.14 / DP 9.52
Tascam DM-24, MOTU Track 16, all Spectrasonics' stuff,
Vienna Instruments SUPER PACKAGE, Waves Mercury, slaved iMac and Mac Minis running VEP 7, etc.
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"In physics the truth is rarely perfectly clear, and that is certainly universally the case in human affairs. Hence, what is not surrounded by uncertainty cannot be the truth." ― Richard Feynman
Tascam DM-24, MOTU Track 16, all Spectrasonics' stuff,
Vienna Instruments SUPER PACKAGE, Waves Mercury, slaved iMac and Mac Minis running VEP 7, etc.
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"In physics the truth is rarely perfectly clear, and that is certainly universally the case in human affairs. Hence, what is not surrounded by uncertainty cannot be the truth." ― Richard Feynman
Re: Beware of DP 10 demo...
I backup my main drive (with DP on it) to Time Machine and iDrive (online backup). Would you recommend reinstalling DP 9.52 first to see if that fixes there problem?...and then if it doesn't, use Time Machine or iDrive?
Mac Pro Intel 2010, 16 gigs RAM, Apollo Quad, 2408 mkIII, Raven Mti2, UAD-2, MTPAV, Superior Drummer 3.0 drums, Ivory piano, B4 organ, PodProxt, Kemper, Ozone 9, Apogee Mini-Me, Roland R-8
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Re: Beware of DP 10 demo...
That's what I would do if unhappy with DP10 ATM.TnMike wrote:I backup my main drive (with DP on it) to Time Machine and iDrive (online backup). Would you recommend reinstalling DP 9.52 first to see if that fixes there problem?...and then if it doesn't, use Time Machine or iDrive?
Mac Mini Server i7 2.66 GHs/16 GB RAM / OSX 10.14 / DP 9.52
Tascam DM-24, MOTU Track 16, all Spectrasonics' stuff,
Vienna Instruments SUPER PACKAGE, Waves Mercury, slaved iMac and Mac Minis running VEP 7, etc.
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"In physics the truth is rarely perfectly clear, and that is certainly universally the case in human affairs. Hence, what is not surrounded by uncertainty cannot be the truth." ― Richard Feynman
Tascam DM-24, MOTU Track 16, all Spectrasonics' stuff,
Vienna Instruments SUPER PACKAGE, Waves Mercury, slaved iMac and Mac Minis running VEP 7, etc.
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Re: Beware of DP 10 demo...
Oh, very cool! Thanks FM!FMiguelez wrote:CCC can create the Recovery partitions for you.dix wrote:I see. The only problem is that clones don't have Recovery partitions - the ones created with SuperDuper on El Cap don't anyway. Is there a way to create clones that can boot into Recovery mode if need be?
It always asks you automatically if you want one when it detects a system disk without the recovery partition.
I LOVE this program! It really brings peace of mind for in-addition-to-TM backups!
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