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When saving during playback, makes loud sound!

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This is a new one for me. If I save a DP file while nothing is playing ... just fine. If I save during Playback, I get a loud zitz .... It happens every time while playing back and never while at rest. And one more thing - it only happens when my recorded tracks are playing back. If I have MIDI alone playing, no zitz ... when I turn the live instruments back on ... zitz ... very strange.

New things ...
I have new speakers, KS Digital ADM 20s.
My visual monitors have been moved a little bit, they are a tad closer to the speakers.

Nothing else. Somehow the save function is triggering something that is obviously getting into the audio chain. I'm stumped. Any ideas?
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Re: When saving during playback, makes loud sound!

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I'd guess that it's a conflict of some sort with your hard drive not being able to playback and keep up with the save. Just a guess. I save while playing and even recording w/o a peep.
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Re: When saving during playback, makes loud sound!

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No - I don't think so. I've been using Performer for over 25 years - never had this issue before. Have millions of hard drives - plenty of room and recording speed. This is a brand new thing ... my guess is some sort of shielding ... but I cannot figure it out ...
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I find the noise happens when there are edited tracks that have not been consolidated. Once they have been merged and unused soundbites deleted, save while playing is much smoother.
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This is a very small file. I had one live vocal and one live piano track. There were a few MIDI tracks and some bounced MIDI tracks ... relative to what I end up with - an extremely small file. I have tons of memory and hard drive space. Like I said, there have been some changes in my studio . For instance, this is the first time I'm running these speakers. I've also moved my visual monitors a little close into the speakers. Plus, when I turn off that piano file in Playback, there is no sound, when I turned it back on, the sound returned. I guess I can try to consolidate this one piano track ... strange if this would be the case as it has never happened before. Weird.
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Re: When saving during playback, makes loud sound!

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No loud noises here, but saving while playing back sometimes (not always) glitches audio for me under 9.52.
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Re: When saving during playback, makes loud sound!

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HCMarkus wrote:... saving while playing back sometimes (not always) glitches audio for me under 9.52.
There are old threads on this but I don't recall anything conclusive.

I save before I play or after but never during. Old habit, I suppose but I never understood the need.
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Re: When saving during playback, makes loud sound!

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mikehalloran wrote:
HCMarkus wrote:... saving while playing back sometimes (not always) glitches audio for me under 9.52.
There are old threads on this but I don't recall anything conclusive.

I save before I play or after but never during. Old habit, I suppose but I never understood the need.
Insecurity? lol I do it all the time. Just in case. In a particularly good take I'll save during recording. Never been a problem and what has been recorded (before the end of the recording) is saved as well.

Amazing app. ;) Now, does anyone have a recommendation for a good shrink? :rofl:
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Tell me, does it hurt when you do this: :rofl: ?
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I save consistently - whenever I remember to do so - even in the middle of a take. I've had a couple of moments when the program quit and I lost something magical. Hence the routine ... Still unsure as to what this might be ...
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Re: When saving during playback, makes loud sound!

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Count me among the folks who want to be able to save during playback.
It is an important feature for me.

Since 9.5, there is an audio glitch when I save while playing.
Never happened before that.
Nervous clients ask, "What was that? I heard a dropout."
I reply, "No problem, it's just a bug in the software."

I'm hoping DP10 fixes it.
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waterstrum wrote:Count me among the folks who want to be able to save during playback.
It is an important feature for me.

Since 9.5, there is an audio glitch when I save while playing.
Never happened before that.
Nervous clients ask, "What was that? I heard a dropout."
I reply, "No problem, it's just a bug in the software."

I'm hoping DP10 fixes it.
It doesn't bother me much, but yeah it started at 9.5 for me too. Never was an issue in years past. I get sputters/distortion/dropouts for 3 or 4 seconds.
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