Chunk start time

[Jigsaw]

Hi Folks,

How can I start the playback of a chunk. i. E. at bar 160 - WITHOUT moving existent Audio/MIDI data later in the timeline - which is happened when I use the "Set chunk start time" option?

The reason is that I want to split a huge project file with a lot of single songs in just one sequence into separate chunks - with remaining the original song position. And DP should start the chunks at these times when I use the "Cue Chunks" option and hit play!

Thanks for any suggestions

[mesayre]

Can you use the "New sequence from selection" function? That'll let you specify the start time when you use it.

[FMiguelez]

Use the Set Chunk Start Time command.
You can find it in the transport window, near the tempo slide, in the mini-menu.

It lets you set the chunk start time in terms of measure, real time (normal and "frame format").

[Jigsaw]

Can you use the "New sequence from selection" function? That'll let you specify the start time when you use it.

Yes, this is working perfect - Thank you very much!

[Jigsaw]

Use the Set Chunk Start Time command.
You can find it in the transport window, near the tempo slide, in the mini-menu.

It lets you set the chunk start time in terms of measure, real time (normal and "frame format").

That's what I thought - Yes it sets the right start time, but moves the content.
"New sequence from selection" is working perfekt!

Thank you

[FMiguelez]

Yeah, use whatever method you prefer.

But no, what I suggested DOES NOT move any content.

It simply changes the numbering you see. You don't have to duplicate layouts or anything. All you have to do is type a simple number, measure 160 in your case. Your sequence will start at whatever number you specify without moving anything. It's just a "look".

I just tried it and confirmed. Nothing gets moved.

[Jigsaw]

No, it DOES NOT move any content.

It simply changes the numbering you see. You don't have to duplicate layouts or anything. All you have to do is type a simple number, measure 160 in your case. Your sequence will start at whatever number you specify without moving anything. It's just a "look".

I just tried it and confirmed. Nothing gets moved.

Sorry, not for me - it starts at 160 and the content has moved to 320. Try it... (DP 9.52)

[FMiguelez]

Are we talking about the same command?

I just put some MIDI notes in bars 1 to 5.
Set the Chunk start time at 160. Everything stays where it is. The only thing that changes is the DISPLAYED number.

Just for kicks, I then enter 400... Same result.
Typed 6, same result. Nothing moves. It's the display showing different numbers. So what used to be measure 1, after the change it simply looks like 400, or whatever you put in there.

I insist on behalf of other readers, so they don't get incorrect information.

[cuttime]

Are either of you dealing with locked tracks?

[FMiguelez]

Are either of you dealing with locked tracks?

Maybe that's it?

I'm not using locked tracks. Are you, Jigsaw?

[Jigsaw]

Guys, at first - it's very nice to talk with you - and you spend your time to help me.

It doesn't matter if the tracks are looked or not. Try the following:

1. Move the first content in a Chunk to bar 160
2. Set the Chunk start time to 160
3. Now the the first bar is 160 - that's good. But take a look on the content - of course it's visual an the same place. But take a look at the bar numbers. It's now at bar 320! When I rewind to the Chunk start and hit play - it takes 160 empty bars before the music starts. That's what I mean.

I'm sure, it's the same behaviour on your system, right?

Only Mesayre's method does exactly what I need!

Again, Thank you all!

[FMiguelez]

It's our pleasure, Jigsaw.

Guys, at first - it's very nice to talk with you - and you spend your time to help me.

It doesn't matter if the tracks are looked or not. Try the following:

1. Move the first content in a Chunk to bar 160
2. Set the Chunk start time to 160
3. Now the the first bar is 160 - that's good. But take a look on the content - of course it's visual an the same place. But take a look at the bar numbers. It's now at bar 320! When I rewind to the Chunk start and hit play - it takes 160 empty bars before the music starts. That's what I mean.

I'm sure, it's the same behaviour on your system, right?

Only Mesayre's method does exactly what I need!

Again, Thank you all!

Ok. I just tried your scenario point-by-point, and still, nothing gets moved after changing the Chunk Start Time.

So I moved content from m. 1-5 to m. 160, like your example.
The reason you see 160 empty bars when you rewind, is because you did move the content by that amount in your point 1.
The reason DP changed what should've been m.160 to m.320 is because when you tell DP to START the sequence at bar 160, "bar 1 becomes bar 160", PLUS the 160 bars you moved your content = 320.

So,
A) DO NOT move your content as in your point 1, simply let it be where it is (i.e., bar 1), and ONLY change the Chunk Start Time to 160.
OR,
B)... move your content to 160, but let the sequence start at 1 (if you want all those empty measures... otherwise, do A)

Why are you moving the content anyway?
Unless I'm mistaken, which might very well be the case, all you have to do is chain your chunks with the appropriate starting times, but you don't have to move anything... DP is supposed to know what and where to start according to each chunk start and how you chain them.

I'm glad you got it to work by duplicating your sequence layout, but you don't have to do that. Literally, simply invoke the command and type the number you want to see instead of bar 1 without moving anything.

I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this, so other readers don't get confused, and you accomplish the same thing easier

[Jigsaw]

OK, I've made a video - see what's happen:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g9cs3o4d5sek5 ... e.mp4?dl=0

[FMiguelez]

Nice video! Thanks for taking the time to do it.

I understand you now. The "problem" was that your content starts at bar 160.
So you want to rewind to the beginning of that chunk, and have it start and show measure 160 without any empty measures.

What I was suggesting only works IF your content starts at m. 1. Like this, you would get exactly what you want. But in your current case, for my suggestion to work, with your music starting on REAL measure 160, you would have to shift it all to m. 1 via the shift command, and THEN change the chunk start time to 160.

Obviously, the other method seems to be working better for you. And the reason it works, seeing that you set the same parameters of the same window with this other workflow, is because DP assumes that your music in the new duplicated chunk starts at real m.1 (not 160), and it simply changes 1 for 160.

So, you either, do it with the duplicating chunk method you are using, OR you must start all your chunks at m.1 (or shift them there) and simply change the Chunk Start Time.

This is the nice thing about DP... there are usually many ways to achieving the same result

Glad it's working fine for you, Jigsaw.

I wonder if my "accent ear" is still accurate... Are you by any chance German or Scandinavian?

[stubbsonic]

Is it possible that the Song Chunk might be useful in this case?