OS 10.13.3 out, Combo Updater link
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OS 10.13.3 out, Combo Updater link
So far, so good. The usual bug fixes and incorporates the recent security updates for those who haven't run them yet.
Here's the Combo Updater
https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1953?locale=en_US
iTunes adds HomePod compatibility. HomePod's release date is scheduled for tomorrow.
Logic 10.4 is an upgrade and adds interesting new features
Here's the Combo Updater
https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1953?locale=en_US
iTunes adds HomePod compatibility. HomePod's release date is scheduled for tomorrow.
Logic 10.4 is an upgrade and adds interesting new features
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Re: OS 10.13.3 out, Combo Updater link
That is a pretty interesting list of Logic updates. Undo for mixer actions, and improvements to tempo mapping for a start. A very long list of other stuff. You might think they've been tracking this forum for ideas!
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Re: OS 10.13.3 out, Combo Updater link
Yea, looked awfully familiar. Perhaps Apple is trying to make Logic good? Could happen... The documentation is still a mess and refers to things that haven’t worked since OS 10.4.bayswater wrote:That is a pretty interesting list of Logic updates. Undo for mixer actions, and improvements to tempo mapping for a start. A very long list of other stuff. You might think they've been tracking this forum for ideas!
Now if DP will copy one Logic feature: Add MusicXML Import. Please?!?!?
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Re: OS 10.13.3 out, Combo Updater link
There's documentation? j/k. Yes, it follows the old IBM tradition of telling you all the great stuff you can do, but never getting around to telling you how to do it. Fortunately, there are load of videos out there.mikehalloran wrote:The documentation is still a mess
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Re: OS 10.13.3 out, Combo Updater link
Just to be clear, the Logic update can be run on Sierra on its own. I did that last night, but haven't opened Logic yet to see what's different in regular workflow vs. when investigating the menu system for new stuff. The Logic update includes a HUGE new addition to the Alchemy libraries.
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Re: OS 10.13.3 out, Combo Updater link
Eli has a fairly thorough update at groove3
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Re: OS 10.13.3 out, Combo Updater link
Yes, the minimum requirement is OS 10.2. Here’s a quick overview:mhschmieder wrote:Just to be clear, the Logic update can be run on Sierra on its own. I did that last night, but haven't opened Logic yet to see what's different in regular workflow vs. when investigating the menu system for new stuff. The Logic update includes a HUGE new addition to the Alchemy libraries.
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Re: OS 10.13.3 out, Combo Updater link
Update on Logic: I've lost a few hours tonight trying to figure out why it freezes up during Audio Unit Validation, before the first plug-in has even been looked at.
What I am doing at the moment, is running every version of Vienna Ensemble (Pro, not-Pro, 32-bits, 64-bits, Server, not-Server), with all other apps shut down. Waste of time, but I'm stuck otherwise.
I suspect VE is at fault, sort of. Mostly because I had a similar issue with Cubase 9.0. Studio One 3 was OK, and of course as always, DP opened without even a hiccup and validated everything.
What I am doing at the moment, is running every version of Vienna Ensemble (Pro, not-Pro, 32-bits, 64-bits, Server, not-Server), with all other apps shut down. Waste of time, but I'm stuck otherwise.
I suspect VE is at fault, sort of. Mostly because I had a similar issue with Cubase 9.0. Studio One 3 was OK, and of course as always, DP opened without even a hiccup and validated everything.
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Re: OS 10.13.3 out, Combo Updater link
I was pleasantly surprised that nothing hung up. May be a first for me. I don’t have VE, however.
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Re: OS 10.13.3 out, Combo Updater link
I went to Activity Monitor to kill the Roland Cloud, rebooted, killed it again, launched the new version of Logic, and it is slowly going through AU validation (it fails on more of them than any app though).
I won't have another update for a while, as Logic is so S-L-O-W. Its feedback mechanisms suck too, as you don't really have clean recovery choices if anything goes south during startup.
I won't have another update for a while, as Logic is so S-L-O-W. Its feedback mechanisms suck too, as you don't really have clean recovery choices if anything goes south during startup.
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Re: OS 10.13.3 out, Combo Updater link
After a couple of dozen Force Quits when Logic got stuck and didn't respond, I got all the way through the Audio Unit validation process and was able to open a project.
The Softube plugs were the worst, and most numerous, offenders, and were all updated (a few dozen of them) within the last couple of weeks.
Not sure if those on High Sierra will have as much trouble, as vendors probably test that platform more than Sierra anymore.
The thing to keep in mind is that I own over 700 plug-ins from over 300 vendors. I seriously doubt anyone else on this forum has as much chance of things going wrong as I do.
The Softube plugs were the worst, and most numerous, offenders, and were all updated (a few dozen of them) within the last couple of weeks.
Not sure if those on High Sierra will have as much trouble, as vendors probably test that platform more than Sierra anymore.
The thing to keep in mind is that I own over 700 plug-ins from over 300 vendors. I seriously doubt anyone else on this forum has as much chance of things going wrong as I do.
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Re: OS 10.13.3 out, Combo Updater link
It just occurred to me that I'd not checked for new libraries. Sure enough, in Logic's Sound Library Manager, there are a lot of libraries to be installed and updated—25G worth... like I'll ever use them... could happen, yes?
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I heard good stuff about the new horns and strings that must make up a lot of the new 25G. At least it shows off the new articulation control features. I have DP and Logic template to use the Logic VIs in DP but note sure the articulation thing is going to work from DP,mikehalloran wrote:It just occurred to me that I'd not checked for new libraries. Sure enough, in Logic's Sound Library Manager, there are a lot of libraries to be installed and updated—25G worth... like I'll ever use them... could happen, yes?
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Re: OS 10.13.3 out, Combo Updater link
Thanks for posting this I was unable to update because iTunes just freezesmikehalloran wrote:So far, so good. The usual bug fixes and incorporates the recent security updates for those who haven't run them yet.
Here's the Combo Updater
https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1953?locale=en_US
when I click update hopefully this will work.
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Re: OS 10.13.3 out, Combo Updater link
The installer should force all applications to quit. If it dosn’t, you may need to do that manually. Force-quit if any are frozen and won’t shut down.
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