Kontakt 5 update crashes DP8 - PROBLEM RETURNED
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- stubbsonic
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Kontakt 5 update crashes DP8 - PROBLEM RETURNED
I just ran NI's updater (I bought the Reaktor 6 upgrade for $50)-- and I decided to update Kontakt 5 while I was at it.
When I opened a DP project with an active Kontakt instrument, it opens the file briefly, but before it shows any of the Kontakt load status, it crashes.
I took Kontakt out of the Audio/Plugins/Components folder (i.e., I copied it to another location and deleted it there). And now the project opens, but I would like to get back to work.
I've repaired permissions. Nothing of significance happened there.
I guess I can try to delete AU prefs, but I'm wondering if this is a known problem.
If I restore the previous component with Time Machine am I asking for trouble?
When I opened a DP project with an active Kontakt instrument, it opens the file briefly, but before it shows any of the Kontakt load status, it crashes.
I took Kontakt out of the Audio/Plugins/Components folder (i.e., I copied it to another location and deleted it there). And now the project opens, but I would like to get back to work.
I've repaired permissions. Nothing of significance happened there.
I guess I can try to delete AU prefs, but I'm wondering if this is a known problem.
If I restore the previous component with Time Machine am I asking for trouble?
Last edited by stubbsonic on Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:01 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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- mikehalloran
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Re: Kontakt 5 update crashes DP8
You aren't running DP 8 in 32 bit mode, are you?
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- stubbsonic
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Re: Kontakt 5 update crashes DP8
Nope. Running it in 64-bit mode.
I wish I knew how to read crash reports. Would it be helpful to post that here?
I wish I knew how to read crash reports. Would it be helpful to post that here?
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- mikehalloran
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Re: Kontakt 5 update crashes DP8
Only about the first 10–15 lines and those should already be sitting in a Tech Link.stubbsonic wrote:Nope. Running it in 64-bit mode.
I wish I knew how to read crash reports. Would it be helpful to post that here?
I have Komplete and got the Reaktor 6 upgrade recently. No problem in DP 8 or 9.
When you ran the updates, did you do it through Native Access? NA has been known to be problematic till all available updates have been run. I had to keep running it over and over — it would update one library then stall till I quit and ran it again. Once everything updated, it behaved.
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- stubbsonic
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Re: Kontakt 5 update crashes DP8
Native Access appeared to have successfully completed all of its installations and updates without issue. I hit the refresh button on top to confirm.
I'll go initiate a tech-link.
I'll go initiate a tech-link.
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Re: Kontakt 5 update crashes DP8 - SOLVED
Tech support assured me there weren't any issues with Kontakt (which was good to hear). The solution was to trash DP prefs and Audio System prefs.
The only down side is I have to go through all my preferences and reset them. While I COULD go back to time machine and at least restore DP prefs, my concern would be that there's some little problem that will bring me back to this point again. I'll just do it manually.
The only down side is I have to go through all my preferences and reset them. While I COULD go back to time machine and at least restore DP prefs, my concern would be that there's some little problem that will bring me back to this point again. I'll just do it manually.
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Re: Kontakt 5 update crashes DP8 - SOLVED
It can also happen that there are some old settings that, once purged, cannot come back since the old (fill in the blank) is no longer available to cause a problem.
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- stubbsonic
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Re: Kontakt 5 update crashes DP8 - SOLVED
Well, unfortunately, my previous issues with DP are recent enough that my prefs aren't that old, but your point is taken, and relevant to any others who might view this thread.
I do think that an old-fashioned hand-written checklist to restore my DP preference settings will help.
1. reload custom COMMANDS (Key bindings)
2. restore default templates-- (and save those)
3. etc. etc.
I do think that an old-fashioned hand-written checklist to restore my DP preference settings will help.
1. reload custom COMMANDS (Key bindings)
2. restore default templates-- (and save those)
3. etc. etc.
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Re: Kontakt 5 update crashes DP8 - PROBLEM RETURNED
It could be that something about the project is damaged or has a conflict (from the older version?) that is causing the crash problem to return.
I can trash the prefs again, and I can load in safe mode and see if I can either load the sequences into a clean project, and then rebuild the Kontakt instrument from scratch. (Ugh.)
I don't have any other software that makes me trash preferences to get rid of crash behavior. But then, none of the other software that I use is this complex.
I can trash the prefs again, and I can load in safe mode and see if I can either load the sequences into a clean project, and then rebuild the Kontakt instrument from scratch. (Ugh.)
I don't have any other software that makes me trash preferences to get rid of crash behavior. But then, none of the other software that I use is this complex.
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- stubbsonic
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Re: Kontakt 5 update crashes DP8 - PROBLEM RETURNED
Still crashing with Kontakt 5. All projects that have Kontakt as VI crash on open. I'll get back with MOTU.
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- mikehalloran
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Re: Kontakt 5 update crashes DP8 - PROBLEM RETURNED
Native Access installed an update yesterday that really messed with Kontakt — it couldn't find most of my libraries. Trying to navigate to them resulted in invalid path errors. I really didn't feel like installing them all over again.
What worked for me was to quit NA, open the standalone version of Kontakt, have it navigate again to my libraries and then quit.
For good measure, I rebooted and then everything was back to normal.
What worked for me was to quit NA, open the standalone version of Kontakt, have it navigate again to my libraries and then quit.
For good measure, I rebooted and then everything was back to normal.
DP 11.34; 828mkII FW, micro lite, M4, MTP/AV USB Firmware 2.0.1
2023 Mac Studio M2 8TB, 192GB RAM, OS Sequoia 15.4, USB4 8TB externals, Neumann MT48, M-Audio AIR 192|14, Mackie ProFxv3, Zoom F3 & UAC 232 32bit float recorder & interface; 2012 MBPs (x2) Catalina, Mojave
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