Out of application memory...
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- ghobish
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Out of application memory...
Has anyone else noticed an increased occurrence of the "Running out of Application Memory" since *either* the introduction of DP 9.5, or the Sierra 10.12.6 update?
Gary Hobish
A. Hammer Mastering & Digital Media
San Francisco, Ca
http://ahammer.com/mastering
Mastering: Mac Studio M1 MAX 2TB SSD, 64GB RAM, 32-core GPU, OS 12.6; DP 11.22, Waves, Izotope RX10 Advanced, Alloy, Nectar, PSP stuff, Plug-In Alliance, Metric Halo ULN-8 MkIV, Euphonix MC Control & MC Mix, Presonus Central Station, and (still) no air conditioning (but at least now there is airflow)
Annex: Mac Pro 2010 5,1 3.33GHz 12-core, 80GB RAM, 10.14.6, DP 11.22, Metric Halo ULN8 MkIV, MOTU 2408III
A. Hammer Mastering & Digital Media
San Francisco, Ca
http://ahammer.com/mastering
Mastering: Mac Studio M1 MAX 2TB SSD, 64GB RAM, 32-core GPU, OS 12.6; DP 11.22, Waves, Izotope RX10 Advanced, Alloy, Nectar, PSP stuff, Plug-In Alliance, Metric Halo ULN-8 MkIV, Euphonix MC Control & MC Mix, Presonus Central Station, and (still) no air conditioning (but at least now there is airflow)
Annex: Mac Pro 2010 5,1 3.33GHz 12-core, 80GB RAM, 10.14.6, DP 11.22, Metric Halo ULN8 MkIV, MOTU 2408III
Re: Out of application memory...
Where are you seeing it? Does it pop up in an OS message?ghobish wrote:Has anyone else noticed an increased occurrence of the "Running out of Application Memory" since *either* the introduction of DP 9.5, or the Sierra 10.12.6 update?
2018 Mini i7 32G macOS 12.7.6, DP 11.33, Mixbus 10, Logic 10.7.9, Scarlett 18i8, MB Air M2, macOS 14.7.6, DP 11.33, Logic 11
- mikehalloran
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Re: Out of application memory...
Not since I upgraded my RAM from 24 to 32G and learned to reboot every day.
Sometimes, I would check available RAM in TTP to find out I had less than 1G available.
Browsers and web sites seem to be the biggest culprits but so many apps and plug-ins have memory leaks that this becomes more common as they add up.
Running sudo purge in Terminal frees up some memory but nothing is as effective as a reboot.
In TechTool Pro, I run the Memory test but stop as soon as it tells me how much is free—otherwise, it takes quite awhile.
Sometimes, I would check available RAM in TTP to find out I had less than 1G available.
Browsers and web sites seem to be the biggest culprits but so many apps and plug-ins have memory leaks that this becomes more common as they add up.
Running sudo purge in Terminal frees up some memory but nothing is as effective as a reboot.
In TechTool Pro, I run the Memory test but stop as soon as it tells me how much is free—otherwise, it takes quite awhile.
DP 11.34; 828mkII FW, micro lite, M4, MTP/AV USB Firmware 2.0.1
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- MIDI Life Crisis
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Re: Out of application memory...
Not a problem here. 32gb ram.
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- HCMarkus
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Re: Out of application memory...
Not an issue here. 32G Ram and daily reboot.
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Re: Out of application memory...
Oh yeah, shut down... I've been shutting down WHENEVER not using the Mac for more than about 3 or 4 hours. Been doing that for decades w/o any issues.
What I would guess a tech guy might suggest would be to start a new user account and see if the problem persists. Then I'd start looking at what's loading in at startup. But you know all that... Saturday night man. You're gonna miss a good one. Be a heathen, c'mon down! LOL
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What I would guess a tech guy might suggest would be to start a new user account and see if the problem persists. Then I'd start looking at what's loading in at startup. But you know all that... Saturday night man. You're gonna miss a good one. Be a heathen, c'mon down! LOL
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Re: Out of application memory...
Not a problem here, even with memory hogs. Does Activity Monitor show "Swap Used"?
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- ghobish
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Re: Out of application memory...
I keep my machine up at night (pour coffee into the unused 2nd optical drive slot) because I sometimes need remote access. I'm not doing anything different than I've ever done, but I have been doing more projects at 96K recently. I could reboot the machine when I get into the studio daily- it hasn't yet happened twice in the same day.
A Hardware Monitor warning (lost connection to a sensor) seems to be a canary in the coal mine, i.e., an early warning. If I see that I should save and reboot.
But like I say except for increased work at 96K I'm not doing anything different than I've done for a long time. (Except maybe moved to Opera for browsing- I should go back to Safari and see if the problem goes away)
A Hardware Monitor warning (lost connection to a sensor) seems to be a canary in the coal mine, i.e., an early warning. If I see that I should save and reboot.
But like I say except for increased work at 96K I'm not doing anything different than I've done for a long time. (Except maybe moved to Opera for browsing- I should go back to Safari and see if the problem goes away)
Gary Hobish
A. Hammer Mastering & Digital Media
San Francisco, Ca
http://ahammer.com/mastering
Mastering: Mac Studio M1 MAX 2TB SSD, 64GB RAM, 32-core GPU, OS 12.6; DP 11.22, Waves, Izotope RX10 Advanced, Alloy, Nectar, PSP stuff, Plug-In Alliance, Metric Halo ULN-8 MkIV, Euphonix MC Control & MC Mix, Presonus Central Station, and (still) no air conditioning (but at least now there is airflow)
Annex: Mac Pro 2010 5,1 3.33GHz 12-core, 80GB RAM, 10.14.6, DP 11.22, Metric Halo ULN8 MkIV, MOTU 2408III
A. Hammer Mastering & Digital Media
San Francisco, Ca
http://ahammer.com/mastering
Mastering: Mac Studio M1 MAX 2TB SSD, 64GB RAM, 32-core GPU, OS 12.6; DP 11.22, Waves, Izotope RX10 Advanced, Alloy, Nectar, PSP stuff, Plug-In Alliance, Metric Halo ULN-8 MkIV, Euphonix MC Control & MC Mix, Presonus Central Station, and (still) no air conditioning (but at least now there is airflow)
Annex: Mac Pro 2010 5,1 3.33GHz 12-core, 80GB RAM, 10.14.6, DP 11.22, Metric Halo ULN8 MkIV, MOTU 2408III
Re: Out of application memory...
We have seen this happen 3x here Gary. Out of nowhere. It is NOT sierra as we are on el capitan with the big rig. But it is since DP 9.5. All of a sudden 48GB are gone. LOL
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Re: Out of application memory...
So drop back to 9.(not 5)?
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Re: Out of application memory...
I have discussed this personally with Andrew B. @ Motu who has been top notch for us the past few years. He is aware of this thread too. If you have anything to add, feel free to post it in this thread so he can see it too.
AMPGUI themes - Andy rocks!, 3 macs, MacPro 768GB ram, 16core OS12.7.5, DP11.32, all Waves, all SLATE,PSP, IK multimedia & Audioease plugs, all PAlliance, Softube, most all Orchestral Tools, tons of NI VI's all air Spitfire, all Audiobro, all Berlin, EW PLAY, LLizard, MachFive3, Kontakt5, Omnisphere, RMX, LASS, all Soundtoys, Lexicon AU's, melodyne and others I know am forgetting, cause I'm old...Also mucho outboard rigs, MTPs, DTP, antelope WC, and 4 control surfaces with Raven.
- ghobish
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Re: Out of application memory...
It happened to me yesterday from 9.13.MIDI Life Crisis wrote:So drop back to 9.(not 5)?
Gary Hobish
A. Hammer Mastering & Digital Media
San Francisco, Ca
http://ahammer.com/mastering
Mastering: Mac Studio M1 MAX 2TB SSD, 64GB RAM, 32-core GPU, OS 12.6; DP 11.22, Waves, Izotope RX10 Advanced, Alloy, Nectar, PSP stuff, Plug-In Alliance, Metric Halo ULN-8 MkIV, Euphonix MC Control & MC Mix, Presonus Central Station, and (still) no air conditioning (but at least now there is airflow)
Annex: Mac Pro 2010 5,1 3.33GHz 12-core, 80GB RAM, 10.14.6, DP 11.22, Metric Halo ULN8 MkIV, MOTU 2408III
A. Hammer Mastering & Digital Media
San Francisco, Ca
http://ahammer.com/mastering
Mastering: Mac Studio M1 MAX 2TB SSD, 64GB RAM, 32-core GPU, OS 12.6; DP 11.22, Waves, Izotope RX10 Advanced, Alloy, Nectar, PSP stuff, Plug-In Alliance, Metric Halo ULN-8 MkIV, Euphonix MC Control & MC Mix, Presonus Central Station, and (still) no air conditioning (but at least now there is airflow)
Annex: Mac Pro 2010 5,1 3.33GHz 12-core, 80GB RAM, 10.14.6, DP 11.22, Metric Halo ULN8 MkIV, MOTU 2408III
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Re: Out of application memory...
it's happened to me several times in the last few days - never before. only since i went to 9.51.
27" iMac 4.0GHz (late 2015), 32G RAM, OSX 10.13.6, DP10.01, UAD Apollo Duo TB, MTPAV USB (also 2021 14" MBP M1 Pro, 32G RAM, Apollo Twin Duo TB)
Re: Out of application memory...
This just started happening to me as well. Also on 9.51.


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Re: Out of application memory...
well, good news - hasn't happened to me a few weeks now. no idea why it stopped.
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