Theme edit help needed...
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Theme edit help needed...
How can we change the basic marker color from Yellow? (not the streamers but the regular marker)
Or what parameter can we edit inside a theme. I can't see the yellow line on many themes.
Or what parameter can we edit inside a theme. I can't see the yellow line on many themes.
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Re: Theme edit help needed...
If you Show Package Contents in the DP app, you will see this file:
/Applications/Digital Performer.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/Images/kMarkerDragCursor.png
There are probably more in there that make up the set of images for markers, but they probably all have the word Marker in the name.
There are these too, in the same folder:
lockedMarkerCicn.png
markerCicn.png
wideMarkerCicn.png
If you open that folder in icon view and zoom the icon size, that makes it easier to find things because you already know what they look like.
/Applications/Digital Performer.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/Images/kMarkerDragCursor.png
There are probably more in there that make up the set of images for markers, but they probably all have the word Marker in the name.
There are these too, in the same folder:
lockedMarkerCicn.png
markerCicn.png
wideMarkerCicn.png
If you open that folder in icon view and zoom the icon size, that makes it easier to find things because you already know what they look like.
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Re: Theme edit help needed...
too cool Bays. Thanks for the fast help.
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Re: Theme edit help needed...
Awesome!bayswater wrote:If you Show Package Contents in the DP app, you will see this file:
/Applications/Digital Performer.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/Images/kMarkerDragCursor.png
There are probably more in there that make up the set of images for markers, but they probably all have the word Marker in the name.
There are these too, in the same folder:
lockedMarkerCicn.png
markerCicn.png
wideMarkerCicn.png
If you open that folder in icon view and zoom the icon size, that makes it easier to find things because you already know what they look like.
And then what? What follows?
Do I open any of those icons in a graphs app such as Preview, change it there and then simply replace it?
I would LOVE to be able to make the GE and SE grid lines and measure lines MUCH DARKER. Can I change that too the way you described?
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Re: Theme edit help needed...
I edit these in GraphicConverter, but other image editors should work. The usual warnings apply. Make backups, keep originals, etc.FMiguelez wrote:And then what? What follows?
Do I open any of those icons in a graphs app such as Preview, change it there and then simply replace it?
I would LOVE to be able to make the GE and SE grid lines and measure lines MUCH DARKER. Can I change that too the way you described?
I don't know if you can do the specific changes to grid and measure lines. It involves going through the zillions of little files inside the packages and trying to figure out which ones control the objects you want to edit. Some are image files, but others are .xml files that specify text and colours etc., you edit the codes for the colour.
Some of these files will be in the Theme packages, so it takes a long time to find all the stuff you might want to change. I expect the colour specs for screen objects that are not images are in the Themes
If you spend 15 minutes looking through this, you can see why Andy wanted to stop working on it.
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Re: Theme edit help needed...
Perhaps in the .XML file: change the color value for kRulerBackgroundColor : and also for kHorizontalRulerTick _FMiguelez wrote:
I would LOVE to be able to make the GE and SE grid lines and measure lines MUCH DARKER. Can I change that too the way you described?
This may not be exactly that but may contribute to a graphical change in the SE, Waveform and Tracks windows.
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Re: Theme edit help needed...
OMG! I totally see what you mean.bayswater wrote: If you spend 15 minutes looking through this, you can see why Andy wanted to stop working on it.
I did and it almost gave me a headache. One can get lost and spend so much time on these things!
Thank you for this, corbo-billy!corbo-billy wrote: Perhaps in the .XML file: change the color value for kRulerBackgroundColor : and also for kHorizontalRulerTick _
This may not be exactly that but may contribute to a graphical change in the SE, Waveform and Tracks windows.
I'll see if that works. If it does, you will have saved me lots of looking-around time

Otherwise, it would be nice if MOTU retouched the dark themes, which present the problem I mentioned about grid lines having too little contrast against the dark backgrounds.
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"In physics the truth is rarely perfectly clear, and that is certainly universally the case in human affairs. Hence, what is not surrounded by uncertainty cannot be the truth." ― Richard Feynman
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Vienna Instruments SUPER PACKAGE, Waves Mercury, slaved iMac and Mac Minis running VEP 7, etc.
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Re: Theme edit help needed...
Also look at changing the values of kkContentBackgroundLine (in .xml file) , corresponding more to your search .FMiguelez wrote: I'll see if that works. If it does, you will have saved me lots of looking-around time![]()
It's change line's color in the Tracks, MIDI, Drum, Sequence and Waveform windows : it's not easy because this settings are too "general" .
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Re: Theme edit help needed...
Yes - a world of pain - see my earlier posts on converting Mellow to DP9 and 9.5 and for Mac 5K settings. A lot can be done with either the png files (using Paint or Graphic Converter or even Preview) or the text file where you can change colours using the RGB values.bayswater wrote:
If you spend 15 minutes looking through this, you can see why Andy wanted to stop working on it.
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Re: Theme edit help needed...
My own edits are restricted to a few contrast tweaks on existing themes.
Harrison has included a preference panel in Mixbus that lists hundreds of screen elements with a colour patch setting, along with an overall colour pallet and setting for transparency. That might seems like theme nirvana, but it's really just a deeper pit of frustration because a change of one element can make other elements worse, or make them disappear altogether. I found that in DP -- making a few colour changes to make the TO and SE easier to navigate made the Drum Editor unusable.
The real work that MOTU and some members here have done is in coming up with an overall design that works, and works on all the screens.
Harrison has included a preference panel in Mixbus that lists hundreds of screen elements with a colour patch setting, along with an overall colour pallet and setting for transparency. That might seems like theme nirvana, but it's really just a deeper pit of frustration because a change of one element can make other elements worse, or make them disappear altogether. I found that in DP -- making a few colour changes to make the TO and SE easier to navigate made the Drum Editor unusable.
The real work that MOTU and some members here have done is in coming up with an overall design that works, and works on all the screens.
2018 Mini i7 32G macOS 12.7.6, DP 11.33, Mixbus 10, Logic 10.7.9, Scarlett 18i8, MB Air M2, macOS 14.7.6, DP 11.33, Logic 11