Time to update... or leave it alone?
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Time to update... or leave it alone?
Hi Motunationals,
A project fell through and I have a whole week free to mess my life up installing updates – after a year of fairly smooth sailing via OS 10.10.5 and DP 9.01. ( ...a few glitches and crashes but I am so very grateful for the 21st century tools at our disposal. Without them, I'd have to get a real job. Without Motunation, I'd have to hire a tech consultant!)
1) How's 9.12 working for you?
2) What OS do you think is optimum for DP at this stage of the game?
Thanks in advance,
Rob
A project fell through and I have a whole week free to mess my life up installing updates – after a year of fairly smooth sailing via OS 10.10.5 and DP 9.01. ( ...a few glitches and crashes but I am so very grateful for the 21st century tools at our disposal. Without them, I'd have to get a real job. Without Motunation, I'd have to hire a tech consultant!)
1) How's 9.12 working for you?
2) What OS do you think is optimum for DP at this stage of the game?
Thanks in advance,
Rob
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Re: Time to update... or leave it alone?
9.02 is the last reliable update for me. Sierra seems to be working just fine. haven't done this week's OS update but there's no earthshaking enhancements so It'll wait until I'm out of the weeds on the current project.
I'd go for the Sierra update, for sure. You can try 9.12, and I don't recall the issues that made me drop back to 9.02, but I recall them as substantial enough and several others on this board are also not using 9.12. At some point being an unrecognized beta tester gets old and i refuse to do it any longer.
The rest of you guys STAY OFF MY LAWN!!!! LOL

I'd go for the Sierra update, for sure. You can try 9.12, and I don't recall the issues that made me drop back to 9.02, but I recall them as substantial enough and several others on this board are also not using 9.12. At some point being an unrecognized beta tester gets old and i refuse to do it any longer.
The rest of you guys STAY OFF MY LAWN!!!! LOL

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Re: Time to update... or leave it alone?
Thanks, MLC.
"When a grizzled veteran speaketh, it is wise to OBEY."
I'll stay off your lawn, but I can't promise my beagle will. Therefore, I shall carry a bag to collect her deposits.
"When a grizzled veteran speaketh, it is wise to OBEY."
I'll stay off your lawn, but I can't promise my beagle will. Therefore, I shall carry a bag to collect her deposits.
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VIs / plug-ins include NI Komplete, VSL, Slate, Sound Toys, Voxengo, Kush, Eventide, Oeksound, Izotope.
MacPro 3.33 6-Core w/SSD, 32G RAM. Metric Halo I/O. (...using MH Console as a summing mixer.)
VIs / plug-ins include NI Komplete, VSL, Slate, Sound Toys, Voxengo, Kush, Eventide, Oeksound, Izotope.
Re: Time to update... or leave it alone?
Stay with 9.02 till they get the kinks worked out with the new Pre-Gen engine. It's caused a lot of audio dropout issues while editing.
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Re: Time to update... or leave it alone?
Dogs and babies can do no harm, IMO. Bring it!!!rob fetters wrote:Thanks, MLC.
"When a grizzled veteran speaketh, it is wise to OBEY."
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Re: Time to update... or leave it alone?
+1 on staying with 9.02.
If you have spare time, it's worth trying out 9.12. Some people do see fairly significant performance increases if you don't run in to any of the issues and have a system configuration that plays well with it.
If you don't have spare time and patience though... don't bother.
If you have spare time, it's worth trying out 9.12. Some people do see fairly significant performance increases if you don't run in to any of the issues and have a system configuration that plays well with it.
If you don't have spare time and patience though... don't bother.
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Re: Time to update... or leave it alone?
You can download both. Rename the first install or the second will overwrite the file. It can be as simple as adding the version number to the end of the name. You should also rename your 9.01 install and keep it till you've verified 9.02.Robert Randolph wrote: If you have spare time, it's worth trying out 9.12. Some people do see fairly significant performance increases if you don't run in to any of the issues and have a system configuration that plays well with it.
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Re: Time to update... or leave it alone?
Install 9.12 next to 9.02. Compare. Work with one or the other for what you need. yeah, just what Mike said. I have both on my system.
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Re: Time to update... or leave it alone?
Mike,
By re-naming the "earlier install" I simply add the version suffix to the where it says "Digital Performer" in my HD/Applications folder?
By re-naming the "earlier install" I simply add the version suffix to the where it says "Digital Performer" in my HD/Applications folder?
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MacPro 3.33 6-Core w/SSD, 32G RAM. Metric Halo I/O. (...using MH Console as a summing mixer.)
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Re: Time to update... or leave it alone?
That'll work, but you can name it whatever you like. It'll still do the same thing when launched.rob fetters wrote:Mike,
By re-naming the "earlier install" I simply add the version suffix to the where it says "Digital Performer" in my HD/Applications folder?
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Re: Time to update... or leave it alone?
Wow, had no idea it was that simple –and – I assume, safe. Thanks, I'll give 'er a go.
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VIs / plug-ins include NI Komplete, VSL, Slate, Sound Toys, Voxengo, Kush, Eventide, Oeksound, Izotope.
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Re: Time to update... or leave it alone?
I'm coming to this from an old os.
On 10.9.5, DP 9.12 is a dream.
Feels like hardware.
Never a glitch.
On 10.9.5, DP 9.12 is a dream.
Feels like hardware.
Never a glitch.
All is well
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Re: Time to update... or leave it alone?
I am in agreement with waterstrum - 10.9.5 and DP 9.12 are good to me too.
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