Microbook IIc with DP 5 and Mac OSX?
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Discussion related to installation, configuration and use of MOTU hardware such as MIDI interfaces, audio interfaces, etc. for Mac OSX
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Microbook IIc with DP 5 and Mac OSX?
Hi,
I am considering purchasing a Microbook IIc interface to address latency issues, otherwise things are working well running DP 5 with Mac OSX. I noticed this is USB 2.0 instead of the older USB on my computer. This should work just fine, yes? If not, is there an older model interface I might search out? Thanks in advance,
I am considering purchasing a Microbook IIc interface to address latency issues, otherwise things are working well running DP 5 with Mac OSX. I noticed this is USB 2.0 instead of the older USB on my computer. This should work just fine, yes? If not, is there an older model interface I might search out? Thanks in advance,
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Re: Microbook IIc with DP 5 and Mac OSX?
USB 2.0 is backwards compatible with 1.1 but the reverse may not be true. If you have an Intel Mac, no problem there. I don't recall when the PPC went to USB 2 —G4, perhaps? The G5 certainly.
The system requirements are for OS 10.6.8 or greater since it uses the Apple Core drivers. OS 10.6.x does not run on a PPC.
So, if you have an Intel Mac, you are good if running the correct OS.
I know that, if installed and authorized in 10.6.8, that DP 5.11 or later still runs if the OS is updated (I had it running in Yosemite, I think). If there's a problem and it has to be re-authorized, you would have to revert back to OS 10.6.
The system requirements are for OS 10.6.8 or greater since it uses the Apple Core drivers. OS 10.6.x does not run on a PPC.
So, if you have an Intel Mac, you are good if running the correct OS.
I know that, if installed and authorized in 10.6.8, that DP 5.11 or later still runs if the OS is updated (I had it running in Yosemite, I think). If there's a problem and it has to be re-authorized, you would have to revert back to OS 10.6.
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Re: Microbook IIc with DP 5 and Mac OSX?
Thanks for the reply; I am not on an Intel Mac and running OS 10.4.1. I am hoping not to upgrade both computer and software. Is there an older interface I might search out? Thanks,
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Re: Microbook IIc with DP 5 and Mac OSX?
All of the current MOTU USB interfaces are requiringSteveHVasil wrote:Thanks for the reply; I am not on an Intel Mac and running OS 10.4.1. I am hoping not to upgrade both computer and software. Is there an older interface I might search out? Thanks,
For Mac OS X:
PowerPC G4 CPU 1 GHz or faster (including PowerPC G5 CPUs and all Intel processor Macs)
Mac OS X version 10.8, 10.7, 10.6 or 10.5; v10.5.8 or later required
I am not a fan of OS 10.5 on my 1GHz G4 Dual. YMMV
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2023 Mac Studio M2 8TB, 192GB RAM, OS Sequoia 15.4, USB4 8TB externals, Neumann MT48, M-Audio AIR 192|14, Mackie ProFxv3, Zoom F3 & UAC 232 32bit float recorder & interface; 2012 MBPs (x2) Catalina, Mojave
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Re: Microbook IIc with DP 5 and Mac OSX?
Why, if you have a G4, wouldn't you run a FireWire interface?
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Re: Microbook IIc with DP 5 and Mac OSX?
Thanks for your replies; you've been kind to answer. I haven't been keeping up with this technology after investing in DP5 several years ago and this is why I am here, seeking information and hopefully not buying something which won't work. I have a couple of Mac minis and a G4 which work with DP5. A FireWire interface may be my solution; I'll do some research.mikehalloran wrote:Why, if you have a G4, wouldn't you run a FireWire interface?
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Re: Microbook IIc with DP 5 and Mac OSX?
Motorola was behind the PPC and FireWire. That's going to be a much better fit.
These will certainly work.
The 828mkII (Firewire) discontinued 2007
http://cdn-data.motu.com/manuals/firewi ... al_Mac.pdf
The 8pre (Firewire) discontinued 2009 (?)
http://www.vialab.org/MEL/EquipmentManu ... al_Mac.pdf
Neither has been made in years. Heat over time will make some units less reliable. You are looking for units that were not the sole audio interface for years.
I have no idea what other FW interfaces support OS 10.4 from other manufacturers.
The old drivers can still be downloaded from MOTU — no problems there.
These will certainly work.
The 828mkII (Firewire) discontinued 2007
http://cdn-data.motu.com/manuals/firewi ... al_Mac.pdf
The 8pre (Firewire) discontinued 2009 (?)
http://www.vialab.org/MEL/EquipmentManu ... al_Mac.pdf
Neither has been made in years. Heat over time will make some units less reliable. You are looking for units that were not the sole audio interface for years.
I have no idea what other FW interfaces support OS 10.4 from other manufacturers.
The old drivers can still be downloaded from MOTU — no problems there.
DP 11.34; 828mkII FW, micro lite, M4, MTP/AV USB Firmware 2.0.1
2023 Mac Studio M2 8TB, 192GB RAM, OS Sequoia 15.4, USB4 8TB externals, Neumann MT48, M-Audio AIR 192|14, Mackie ProFxv3, Zoom F3 & UAC 232 32bit float recorder & interface; 2012 MBPs (x2) Catalina, Mojave
IK-NI-Izotope-PSP-Garritan-Antares, LogicPro X, Finale 27.4, Dorico 5, Notion 6, Overture 5, TwistedWave, DSP-Q 5, SmartScore64 NE Pro, Toast 20 Pro
2023 Mac Studio M2 8TB, 192GB RAM, OS Sequoia 15.4, USB4 8TB externals, Neumann MT48, M-Audio AIR 192|14, Mackie ProFxv3, Zoom F3 & UAC 232 32bit float recorder & interface; 2012 MBPs (x2) Catalina, Mojave
IK-NI-Izotope-PSP-Garritan-Antares, LogicPro X, Finale 27.4, Dorico 5, Notion 6, Overture 5, TwistedWave, DSP-Q 5, SmartScore64 NE Pro, Toast 20 Pro
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Re: Microbook IIc with DP 5 and Mac OSX?
Thanks Mike, between your responses and my mac guru wife, I'm good now. Taking a chance on an older interface is better than scrapping everything else at present.