drum reverb > drum bus minor idea
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- philbrown
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drum reverb > drum bus minor idea
This isn't rocket surgery, but if I've run across this I don't recall, but surely nothing I invented. This is very genre and mix dependent obviously, but lately I'v changed my signal flow a bit and I'm really liking the results.
Simplified description:
Normally I route all drums to a drum bus aux with some compression, with sends on the individual drum channels routed to a reverb aux (or 2 or 3) routed to the master bus.
Lately what I started doing is the same except I'm routing the reverb INTO the drum aux bus. This is on a relatively natural sounding drum kit, not EDM or metal or whatever. Using a fairly natural reverb and running it into the drum bus seems to pull the kit together and sound more like a drum set than individual drums, especially for a bit more intimate non-bombastic sound. I'm not using super-heavy compression on the drum aux, more like a glue (in fact I use Cytomic's 'The Glue' quite a bit on the drum and/or master bus).
Just an idea.
Simplified description:
Normally I route all drums to a drum bus aux with some compression, with sends on the individual drum channels routed to a reverb aux (or 2 or 3) routed to the master bus.
Lately what I started doing is the same except I'm routing the reverb INTO the drum aux bus. This is on a relatively natural sounding drum kit, not EDM or metal or whatever. Using a fairly natural reverb and running it into the drum bus seems to pull the kit together and sound more like a drum set than individual drums, especially for a bit more intimate non-bombastic sound. I'm not using super-heavy compression on the drum aux, more like a glue (in fact I use Cytomic's 'The Glue' quite a bit on the drum and/or master bus).
Just an idea.
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- mhschmieder
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Re: drum reverb > drum bus minor idea
Interesting. Are you using mono or stereo reverb for this?
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- philbrown
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Re: drum reverb > drum bus minor idea
Stereo. I've tried totally different plugs from a Bricasti preset on Slate's Verbsuite, Lexicon short hall or medium room, Eventide's T-Verb, Flux Session verb... "tell them all I loved only them" to quote an ancient line. The idea is getting the drums into a nice coherent space.mhschmieder wrote:Interesting. Are you using mono or stereo reverb for this?
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- mhschmieder
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Re: drum reverb > drum bus minor idea
Good rec on the Slate, which I just bought. That will save me time if I start out by auditioning the Bricasti set on the drum bus.
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- philbrown
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Re: drum reverb > drum bus minor idea
I found this helpful:mhschmieder wrote:Good rec on the Slate, which I just bought. That will save me time if I start out by auditioning the Bricasti set on the drum bus.
http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1 ... edit#gid=0
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Re: drum reverb > drum bus minor idea
Good idea Phil! 

- philbrown
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Re: drum reverb > drum bus minor idea
Cool!HCMarkus wrote:Good idea Phil!

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