How to limit incoming MIDI controller 64 info

[frisb]

I recently purchased a Roland A-88 MIDI controller (which I really like) and am using Roland's sustain pedal. When I record MIDI data and use the sustain pedal I get the usual on/off data for controller 64 but I am also recording numbers from 1-127 as well. Is there a way to limit DP to only the on and off data?

[stubbsonic]

This is just a hunch, but I'm wondering if you have some options for different pedal inputs on the back of the A-88. It sounds like you are using an expression or half-damper-compatible pedal input, rather than using a simple pedal switch input. See if you can move the damper pedal to a switch input and see if that fixes it. Or, perhaps there is a setting within the A-88 that will let you set the mode of the pedal input so that it is a simple binary switch.

If not, you might try creating a simple console with a button in it that receives CC64 and then transmits as CC64, but maybe the fact that it is a button will make it binary?

In any case, you can edit that data in the track. It would be nice if DP's "Reassign CC" insert plug had a few more features.

[frisb]

Thanks! I will try all of those possible solutions and I much appreciate your detailed advice.

[Gravity Jim]

You might also consider this:

A piano pedal that provides more than just on/off data is a really nice thing to have if you are playing an instrument that responds to half-pedaling. My Yamaha CP33 has such a pedal and it's own piano responds, as do a couple of my VIs. That stream of data may look irritating, but it's not hurting anything. Check and see if your pianos allow half-pedaling: for me, it makes for a much more natural piano "feel."

[Shooshie]

I recently purchased a Roland A-88 MIDI controller (which I really like) and am using Roland's sustain pedal. When I record MIDI data and use the sustain pedal I get the usual on/off data for controller 64 but I am also recording numbers from 1-127 as well. Is there a way to limit DP to only the on and off data?

That would take some experimentation, which I don't currently have time to do. Here are some areas that I would take into consideration when experimenting:

• Thin Continuous Data
• Reassign Continuous Data
• Set Ramp Density and Minimum Change [MIDI Controllers]
• Switches are Continuous Data
• Custom Consoles (conversion on the fly)

Here is a list of MIDI Controllers, some of which are switches by default.

I hope you find what you're looking for!

Shooshie

[frankf]

Use the Setup>Input Filter set to record only cc64 data. if data is already recorded, you can use the Setup>View Filter to view "only" cc 64, or all cc's "except" cc 64 and delete them.


Frank Ferrucci

[stubbsonic]

Might be a risky choice if the pedal doesn't hit 64 on the button.

[musicman691]

Use the Setup>Input Filter set to record only cc64 data. if data is already recorded, you can use the Setup>View Filter to view "only" cc 64, or all cc's "except" cc 64 and delete them.


Frank Ferrucci

The OP is recording them but instead of just the 'normal' values for cc64 of zero and 64 he's getting every value possible for the on and off states. Looking at the MIDI spec it says that for cc64 zero to 63 is considered off and 64 to 127 is considered on. MIDI input filter wouldn't help that.

If the op has the DP10 pedal it is compatible with half pedal keyboards and it can also serve as a standard pedal switch for (sustain use, etc.).

[frankf]

Ok, OP was talking about cc64 values not cc's other than 64?

[musicman691]

Ok, OP was talking about cc64 values not cc's other than 64?

Yes

[monkey man]

I have this issue too but it's never bothered me.

My Trusty old A-50 has 4 "control pedal" jack inputs along with 2 patch up/down ones. The control inputs are all labelled as identical, but I may try swapping things around a little as I currently use inputs 3 & 4 for my dual-sustain pedal (ENSONIQ SW-10).

Thank you, Stubbsy, for pointing out that sometimes expression inputs appear to be switching ones and vice versa; there's no way to tell other than to try them out.

[musicman691]

I have this issue too but it's never bothered me.

My Trusty old A-50 has 4 "control pedal" jack inputs along with 2 patch up/down ones. The control inputs are all labelled as identical, but I may try swapping things around a little as I currently use inputs 3 & 4 for my dual-sustain pedal (ENSONIQ SW-10).

Thank you, Stubbsy, for pointing out that sometimes expression inputs appear to be switching ones and vice versa; there's no way to tell other than to try them out.

And to make matters worse there are some that are switchable between continuous and switching modes. I haven't used it but I also believe the pedal input on the MOTU MIDI Timepiece AVUSB goes both ways and is configurable in s/w.

And let's not forget the sustain pedals that can be changed between whether down is sustain on or sustain off.