He promised; He did it !

David Polich · Post by **David Polich** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:14 am

It's official - Slate is my favorite vendor now.

waxman · Post by **waxman** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:14 am

Just ordered it from Mark at Sweetwater. Thanks to Big Wave Dave for letting me know. I have been so waiting for this. This will impact and make everything move. woohoo. Mark said around Oct. 22. Fingers crossed. MOTU should have done this a few years ago. They probably will now for $999 lol...

MCU Pro and 2 extenders going on ebay right now... http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/201443322699? ... CA:US:1123

Contact me direct if you're interested in the MCU system.

This is a great link to see the different studios using Ravens and MTI
http://www.slatemt.com/raven-users/

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Killahurts · Post by **Killahurts** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:14 pm

nk_e wrote:
Killahurts wrote:I know that it can be the primary monitor, and supports a second monitor. But for my setup, I need to know if it can be my primary monitor/touchscreen, and mirror that image onto my 60" 1920 X 1080 display?
It can function as a primary monitor. Mirroring is handled in your preferences, no? Your video card has to have two outputs, etc. It also requires a true DVI connection. I was unsuccessful using a display port to DVI adapter.

Note that I have version 1 of the thing; specs for version 2 may differ.

May be problematic for me.. my computer is in a machine room and the monitors are distributed as HDMI over cat 6 cables.

I have very good USB 2.0 extended into the control room though, so if the monitor part of Raven is "just a monitor", and all the commands are via USB, it should work.. ?

Don T · Post by **Don T** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:22 pm

WOW!
I'm going to have to look at this for the school. Looks like a nice piece of kit. Our situation, being a school, is we have to support all workflows within reason. We have the one large control room to mix stereo, 5.1 sound for pic, multi-track sessions with and without the MTR etc. Minimum of 16 tracks of I/O with monitoring also integrated into the workstation.

Don T

Radiogal · Post by **Radiogal** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:25 pm

Yeah!!! Looking good. Really, great news and invention.
However... ergonomics.. using your hands and arms for every click, drag and change.
Considering the speed and large amount of mouse clicks we usually make every single day.

Are you all getting my Point?
I see scapula injuries and other hurting areas, back pain, neck, yeah, you may get my concerns.

I might be overreacting as I haven´t worked with the Raven yet, however I work with DP and know the amount of clicks.

Raven is probably worth it, but ergonomics should be taken into consideration before buying.
I´m unfortunately not to keen cuz of this.

labman · Post by **labman** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:46 pm

Hey RadioGal. I agree entirely about the ergonomics thing. Our engineer reminded us today that he had hated it when testing one out for 45 minutes when they first came out. (for precisely the reasons you mention.)

But I suspect, if we treated like an musical instrument with our arms consistently moving and dropping to sides with good supportive posture it may be very do-able. I already have ergonomic issues from years of holding onto trackballs for hours, and of course, trackballs are way better than mice. My issues weren't from using the trackballs, but from having my arms in that position too long. Sorta like playing classical guitar for hours without moving. Not a good thing.

EMRR · Post by **EMRR** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:03 pm

nk_e wrote:It also requires a true DVI connection. I was unsuccessful using a display port to DVI adapter. Note that I have version 1 of the thing; specs for version 2 may differ.

That sounds like a red flag to watch.

Point taken about ergonomics, though I suppose they all suck. More options, more ways to avoid problems. Switch to traditional mouse when arms are tired, switch back when your hand locks up. Etc.

Lots of various grumbling I see about the original Raven implementation. It's matured longer than any other options out there, be interesting to see how it really plays with DP.

Simsy · Post by **Simsy** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:12 pm

Ordered!! Get it in 2 weeks, can't wait.

Killahurts · Post by **Killahurts** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:53 pm

labman wrote:Hey RadioGal. I agree entirely about the ergonomics thing. Our engineer reminded us today that he had hated it when testing one out for 45 minutes when they first came out. (for precisely the reasons you mention.)

But I suspect, if we treated like an musical instrument with our arms consistently moving and dropping to sides with good supportive posture it may be very do-able. I already have ergonomic issues from years of holding onto trackballs for hours, and of course, trackballs are way better than mice. My issues weren't from using the trackballs, but from having my arms in that position too long. Sorta like playing classical guitar for hours without moving. Not a good thing.

I tried out the big Raven last year, and found it to be somewhat fatiguing as well. The key for me would be getting the screen at the right angle and height. One can do this with the 27" MTi, but not with the big Raven, its angle and height is set.

bayswater · Post by **bayswater** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:04 pm

Radiogal wrote:Yeah!!! Looking good. Really, great news and invention.
However... ergonomics.. using your hands and arms for every click, drag and change.
Considering the speed and large amount of mouse clicks we usually make every single day.

Are you all getting my Point?
I see scapula injuries and other hurting areas, back pain, neck, yeah, you may get my concerns

Exactly my concern. I'd want to work with one for a few days to see what happens. But I expect these problems will be addressed with some design refinements. Kudos to Slate for leading the charge.

doodles · Post by **doodles** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:07 pm

someone mentioned something about there being a 48 inch as well?

Has anybody tried this, or sticking to the 28 or whatever it is?

Killahurts · Post by **Killahurts** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:28 pm

doodles wrote:someone mentioned something about there being a 48 inch as well?

Has anybody tried this, or sticking to the 28 or whatever it is?

The 48" is the one I tried, see above.. That's why I'm most excited about the 27", because it would integrate into my system so well, without having to throw everything out and start over.

Killahurts · Post by **Killahurts** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:30 pm

And heck guys, for hands-on control of plugins alone, this is worth a thousand bucks. Think about it.

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:55 am

I'm pretty sure you can still use the Magic Trackpad for everything you want to use it for. The touch screen will be great for multi-touch moves. Consider it like an analog board with a control console (Trackpad). You do most of your clicking at the control console, but when you do some mixing, you can use all your fingers!

Shoosh

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:16 am

The ergonomic concerns are mine too; my long-term muscle issues exacerbate the strain of holding one's arms "forward", or even suspending them. The mouse works fine for me 'cause I can lazily rest both my arms on the work surface; I designed it that way.

Looks like a great product nevertheless. I wonder how detailed MIDI editing goes on this thing?

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