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Christian
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Slow saves?

Post by Christian »

My saves have become progressively slower on larger projects. Looking at up to 25-30seconds to complete a save! Is this normal? Considering how much I hit apple-s in a session, it's starting to eat up a lot of time!!!
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Post by giles117 »

Yeah this is pretty NORMAL for DP 4. What a joke. They need to tighten it up. Not like these are 10MB files.....
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Post by Frodo »

That seems like a long time for a save on your particular computer. However, streaming sample libraries have raised the bar with all sorts of processing, from shooting the sounds down the bus to saving. I get occasional extended save delays, but none quite as long as 25-30 seconds

One quirk I'm experiencing is the odd "hang upon quit". It takes DP 4.61 forever sometimes just to leave the building. After 5-10 minutes it still hangs, and the Finder tells me (when I use the 'force quit' keystroke) that DP is 'not responding'.

If it's of any small consolation, I was just on the Finale forum and there are similar issues with spinning beach balls, slow saves, slow loads, slow copying and pasting. Not sure if software developers are not taking full advantage of what Tiger has to offer, of if Apple still has a ways to go to makie OSX's audio processing fully functional. It's not clear that the two are mutually exclusive.

If you are using lots of VI's (or one large one) and haven't defrag'd your HDs in while, give that a try.

If you are not using any VI's, do you still get the same save lag? Now that Finale, for example, is using Garritan, the app is TONS slower than it is when not using it. The version of Kontakt Player that comes with Finiale 2006 behaves the same way inside DP.
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Christian
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Post by Christian »

Frodo -

I have no VIs installed in DP at all... still on 10.3.9 with DP4.6 - haven't plunged into 4.61 yet.

The only thing I can attribute to these saves is the UAd card... it's the only thing in my system that's changed in recent months. Prior my saves were long, but they seem to be getting progressively longer.
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Post by TheHopiWay »

Tried flushing your undo list? Speeds it up for me.
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Post by Christian »

I'll try it - how would that speed up my saves? I assumed the undo list was additive... ie, it wouldn't save the whole list everytime.
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Post by chrispick »

Christian wrote:I'll try it - how would that speed up my saves? I assumed the undo list was additive... ie, it wouldn't save the whole list everytime.
Flushing your undo can definitely make a difference. I'd make it a habit of doing it regularly throughout a project.

I'd also recommend clearing your Soundbite window of unused soundbites, especially if you've cut up a bunch of bites, creating many smaller ones.

The key here is to optimize, clearing out as much extraneous data as you can.
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