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Re: Yosemite

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beautypill wrote:I am using OSX Yosemite and Digital Performer 8.07.

I am using a 2011 17" MacBook Pro.

I use two Metric Halo ULN8s. I updated to their most recent (purportedly Yosemite-compatible) drivers.

But DP simply will not start. Keeps freezing and has to be "force quitted."

As I said, it's a bummer.

It was dumb of me to make the leap! I regret it. I will always wait a few months from now on.

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You REALLY need to get Carbon Copy Cloner. Or at least use Time Machine...

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Re: Yosemite

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beautypill wrote:I'm gonna go to the Apple Store tomorrow and see a Genius Bar person. Maybe they can help me restore Mavericks. I don't know anything about operating systems; All I know is DP is totally effed up now.

- c
Very sorry to hear this. I hope I have not contributed to your problems. I think you will do better addressing this with MOTU, rather than with the storefront Apple guys.
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Re: Yosemite

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beautypill wrote:I am using OSX Yosemite and Digital Performer 8.07.

I am using a 2011 17" MacBook Pro.

I use two Metric Halo ULN8s. I updated to their most recent (purportedly Yosemite-compatible) drivers.

But DP simply will not start. Keeps freezing and has to be "force quitted."

As I said, it's a bummer.

It was dumb of me to make the leap! I regret it. I will always wait a few months from now on.

- c
Sorry to hear that. I'm using MOTU interfaces and I updated the drivers BEFORE installing Yosemite and it's working well.
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Re: Yosemite

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Hi!
I'd like to know if Omnisphere , UVI Workstation and Kontakt 5 , are working with DP 8 and Yosemite?
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Re: Yosemite

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.Now DP8 will not open without crashing.
OS updates sometimes mess up DP installs. You aren't the first. Normally, the fix is usually easy.
beautypill wrote:I'm gonna go to the Apple Store tomorrow and see a Genius Bar person. Maybe they can help me restore Mavericks. I don't know anything about operating systems; All I know is DP is totally effed up now.

- c
Before you do that, reinstall DP 8.07. There is no uninstaller, it installs over itself. Repair disk permissions and reboot. See if you still have a problem.
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Re: Yosemite

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@beautypill and others who are having problems:

Have you tried re-installing the OS? If not, I highly recommend giving that a try.

I've been having problems with my 2012 MacBook Pro for as long as I can remember: slow launching and/or performance of apps; graphics glitches under certain conditions; very slow wake up from sleep; pulsing sleep LED not working, etc. I ran all sorts of diagnostics on my own and with the help of Apple Care, and nothing helped. I really thought the hardware was the problem and was about to take it to be checked out.

Yesterday, at the suggestion of an Apple Care tech, I re-installed Mavericks, and, lo-and-behold, the problems vanished.

I'd been dreading re-installation because of a sense that in the past this was a big hassle - like maybe I had to re-install and/or re-authorize apps and/or plug-ins afterwards.

But this time I didn't have to re-install or re-authorize anything. The install took a long time - up to 90 min, IIRC - but it was totally worth it.

I don't remember the details other than I restarted while pressing command-R and then chose to reinstall Mavericks. This page might help:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718?view ... cale=en_US

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jresende wrote:I'd like to know if Omnisphere , UVI Workstation and Kontakt 5 , are working with DP 8 and Yosemite?
Yes for Omnisphere and Kontakt 5 in DP 8.07 on my 2012 MacBook Pro running Yosemite. I haven't done any editing in those instruments - just loaded and played back sounds in a sequence, and have not seen any problems so far.
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Re: Yosemite

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BobK wrote:
jresende wrote:I'd like to know if Omnisphere , UVI Workstation and Kontakt 5 , are working with DP 8 and Yosemite?
Yes for Omnisphere and Kontakt 5 in DP 8.07 on my 2012 MacBook Pro running Yosemite. I haven't done any editing in those instruments - just loaded and played back sounds in a sequence, and have not seen any problems so far.
Thanks BOB!!
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Re: Yosemite

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Sorry I don't have time to read seven pages right now; been working insane hours and have been mostly off the grid regarding anything personal (email, forums, news, etc.).

I just want to say that all three people who tried to install the final Yosemite beta a week or so ago, ruined their computers to the point that they don't know what to do without risking losing data (they have backups but would prefer not to have to scratch their discs as they now must do).

Hopefully Apple solved these problems in the final week before the surprise public release today (my understanding was that actual full-blown public wasn't until closer to Thanksgiving, after another round of betas).

I had to cancel a product release as we would otherwise have potential egg on our face since most people will instantly upgrade and/or be auto-upgraded, and we haven't been able to effectively test on Yosemite due to the installation issues on various semi-new laptops.

As a result of this, and being in the middle of an album production at home, I don't dare upgrade yet. Also, Friday releases make me nervous as they hint at "free beta testers" before an initial .1 bug fix a few days later.

I'll try to catch up on this thread later this weekend to see whether people are experiencing real world problems with the public version vs. the beta versions.
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Re: Yosemite

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beautypill wrote:I'm gonna go to the Apple Store tomorrow and see a Genius Bar person. Maybe they can help me restore Mavericks. I don't know anything about operating systems; All I know is DP is totally effed up now.

- c
Silly question perhaps, but did you try to reinstall DP 8.07?
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Re: Yosemite

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I am an idiot for updating to Yosemite - I was tired on a late Friday night and thought my Time Machine backup would protect me and allow me to go back in time to Mavericks easily. That apparently was wrong and its not that easy to go back. Anyone have any ideas? I have repaired permissions but still some DP bugs.

DP windows and Window Sets are behaving strangely and the full screen mode in DP is a definite bug. I know all this will be fixed in time - hell Peak 7 still works, and Pod Farm has been updated already for Yosemite. So not a total disaster. But enough of a wobble to suggest to others that they should wait.

And now I have to find another solution to those bloody chimes of death every time you re-boot - they are back and whether there is a Yosemite solution yet I don't know.

General impressions of Yosemite? I don't really like it but I suppose I'll get used to it.

It was strange - this forum did not have much going on in terms of active topics - so obviously it was time for an update of something to upset the equalibrium. This time its Yosemite. Never do an update late on a tired Friday night....
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Re: Yosemite

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Only real problem I'm having is that each time I restart the computer, it forgets my sound output setting. My computer audio comes out of channels 33-34 of my RME MADI board. The Audio/MIDI settings are fine, but the "sound" in system prefs switches it back to internal for the output.. not input or sound FX, those settings stick.. only the system output. Since I'm the only one who's reported this, I'm going to assume it's the RME driver that's not communicating correctly with the new OS.
It's a little inconvenient, but not too big a deal.
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Re: Yosemite and Time Machine

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If you use Time Machine, keep an eye on the Exclusions. In my test partition I set TM to exclude other partitions and folders I can easily install. The result, since I have few user files, should have been something like 100MB of library and misc files. In fact, TM ignored the exclusions and backed up about 1T before I stopped it.

Another thing: it did not establish a separate backup for this partition, but instead added to a backup that was already in place from another partition. Maybe it's supposed to do this, I don't know, but it certainly makes a difference to the way I'd set it up.
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MIDI Life Crisis wrote:Hey FM, Quickeys still working? Anyone using Quicken on Yosemite? How about Adobe CS5? Acrobat X? Finale? Oh wait, Finale doesn't even work on Mavericks yet...
I updated my non-music MBP (13" mid 2009) to Yosemite. Quicken 2007 opens, but does not connect to my banks. Windows behave strangely too. Not too worried since I've happily been using Quicken Mac 2015 for several months. It's fine in Yosemite.
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Re: Yosemite

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Still no problems to report here. Everything working slicker than cow poop in April.

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