Bounce to disk definitely broken

[Timeline]

Just tried a new track w/8.06, VSL and Kontakt 5 drums which were not even close to being in sync. Could be just KT but it's not right. Buffers don't matter. Tried 2k x 2 and still busted. I have had luck rendering VI tracks and then bouncing though. Gotta get this fixed!!!! Who else with these VI's?

[David Polich]

Discussions of whether BTD works or not have been ongoing for as long
as it's been a feature of DP. If I were you I'd do real-time mixdowns
and forget about BTD.

Just in case:

1. Create a new stereo track with a new bus input.This will be your
"mixdown" track.
2. Select all tracks, including VI's, whose output is assigned to your "Main Out" and
reassign their outputs to the input bus you created for the mixdown
track.
3. Under the "Studio" menu, select "Audio Patch Thru" and set it to "Input
Only".
4. Record-enable the mixdown track. Make sure the playback button is on.
5. Rewind to the beginning of your sequence. Press record+play buttons.
6. When your sequence comes to its end, press stop. Voila - you have a real-time mix.

[Timeline]

David.

Thanks David but I know well how to "mixback" to DP but for others, your explanation may help them.

As for DP 8 being broken, for BTD it is where VI's are concerned. When I mixback to DP I always find, depending on the number of VI's and buffers, its not always sonically best to do and takes longer because its in real time. On session projects using live recordings, no VI's, BTD works. In 7 in the past, this has been really handy and a time savings for me. The facility of BTD for quick mixes when using/sending reference mixes to others as I develop a project it is still a preferred the way, fast and very needed facility.

So, until DP is repaired, I guess I'll just render the VI's and BTD. I will also continue to finalize Master Mixes to Masterlink through mastering gear which sounds outstanding. When I mix to Masterlink, I do have to cut CD's to export them back to my computer. this is another reason I prefer BTD for ref mixes. I bought my second Masterlink a few months ago. I use them both some times. Hope MOTU is working on the BTD issue.

[NeilBlack]

I also appreciate the benefits of being able to use the bounce to disc feature. Running off a quick mp3 / using better oversampling rates for plugins that offer offline improvements etc. Can't understand why Motu still seem to have their heads in the sand over this one . Mach 5 is the worst offender on my system, yet when I called tech they gave me the impression they were not even aware of the problem. It's been an issue for years now. Either disable it or fix it, but to leave a broken feature in the file menu doesn't seem that cool to me.

[frankf]

Discussions of whether BTD works or not have been ongoing for as long
as it's been a feature of DP. If I were you I'd do real-time mixdowns
and forget about BTD.

Just in case:

1. Create a new stereo track with a new bus input.This will be your
"mixdown" track.
2. Select all tracks, including VI's, whose output is assigned to your "Main Out" and
reassign their outputs to the input bus you created for the mixdown
track.
3. Under the "Studio" menu, select "Audio Patch Thru" and set it to "Input
Only".
4. Record-enable the mixdown track. Make sure the playback button is on.
5. Rewind to the beginning of your sequence. Press record+play buttons.
6. When your sequence comes to its end, press stop. Voila - you have a real-time mix.

David, I use a variation of this that saves me time in reassigning the auxes, VIs and audio tracks:

-in addition to the ”mix down” track of #1 above, I have a "Main Aux" aux track with input "Main bus"and output of "Monitor bus" which feeds my audio interface's monitor outputs. All above mentioned tracks are assigned output to "Main" bus (feeding input of "Main Aux" track). This is my setup while working.

-Now I have a "Mix bus" which is assigned to the input of "mix down" track, output assigned to "Monitor bus" as described above. It just sits there while I work, as nothing is assigned to its input, the "Mix bus"

-When it's time to lay down a mix (in real time), instead of reassigning all the individual tracks as you describe in #2, I only change the output assignment of the "Main Aux" track from "Monitor bus" to "Mix bus". The "mix down" track via the "Mix bus" now has input. I continue with your steps 3-6

All these tracks and assignments are part of every template I use. I hope the description is clear. A diagram would serve better I'm sure.

I never mix with BTD. I like to listen as I lay a mix down. I always use BTD to make a reference QT for client with mixes I make via above method. Same for mp3s. BTD in these circumstances is flawless and reliable.


Frank Ferrucci