Video full screen between chunks
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Video full screen between chunks
Running into an issue with DP 8. I was very excited to hear about the full screen capability of the new video engine as I use DP for live projection. The way we run our live show each song is a chunk in one large sequence, so each chunk has it's own video clip. The problem is, if you set a chunk to full screen, it doesn't stay set to that when you go back to it. Has anyone found a workaround for this or am I missing something?
Thanks
Chris
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Chris
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Re: Video full screen between chunks
DP8 doesn't stay in full screen mode between launches. I use the same movie for all chunks in a project so I have not seen your situation, but it is not surprising.
You should report this to MOTU in a techlink and/or phone call, but I wouldn't hope for too much. DP is not intended for video display in performance. If you were using it as such, you'd probably want to send the picture out of a firewire port, but as of DP 8.01 even that feature remains unimplemented, as do several other video and GUI aspects. Maybe you'll have better luck in the next update, but again, unless you ask MOTU directly, you may not see this as an actual "feature" that DP will accommodate.
Alternately, it may well be a new aspect of the video features and DP could be used as a video projection, MIDI/sample playback, and soundtrack editing, all-in-one system.
Sounds good to me!
You should report this to MOTU in a techlink and/or phone call, but I wouldn't hope for too much. DP is not intended for video display in performance. If you were using it as such, you'd probably want to send the picture out of a firewire port, but as of DP 8.01 even that feature remains unimplemented, as do several other video and GUI aspects. Maybe you'll have better luck in the next update, but again, unless you ask MOTU directly, you may not see this as an actual "feature" that DP will accommodate.
Alternately, it may well be a new aspect of the video features and DP could be used as a video projection, MIDI/sample playback, and soundtrack editing, all-in-one system.
Sounds good to me!
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Re: Video full screen between chunks
yeah....but DP drives an awful lot of live stage tours including the video components of those stage tours.MIDI Life Crisis wrote:DP is not intended for video display in performance.
The full screen fix seems like a simple one they can make and is just probably an oversight in the new re-write of the video engine.
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Re: Video full screen between chunks
Just wondering if there's any update to this? I was planning to using DP for the same thing… But not if it doesn't work. 

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I suspect those tours also employ someone to take care of video as an element and that what might seem "automatic" may well be the work of a talented video technician. I actually don't have the answer there. Sorry.bralston wrote: yeah....but DP drives an awful lot of live stage tours including the video components of those stage tours.
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Re: Video full screen between chunks
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Here is the workaround I use, but it's not easy. For live use, all of our songs are placed consecutively in one long chunk. Then I imported the video clip for each song into iMovie and turned them into one long clip in the same order as the audio tracks in DP. I exported the clip as a .dv file which I then imported into DP 7.24 (I use this version live because the dv out over firewire function works). If you are using DP 8.06 and the video fullscreen mode, you may want to export the video file from iMovie in a different format (I'm not sure which is best).
Set the start time of the video clip to start right with your first song. Then go in and "fine-tune" the start time of the audio and/or MIDI tracks for your second song until it is in sync with the right portion of the video clip. Do the same for each song. Then create a marker at the beginning of each song to make it easy to cue up each song in the marker window or from DP Control on your iOS device. Handy tip: once you reach this stage, go back to iMovie and mute any audio you don't want to hear in DP, then "re-export" the whole giant video clip and and import it into DP and get rid of the first clip.
Of course, each time you add a new song to your set, you have to go back to iMovie and re-edit your giant video clip. Personally, I put 5-10 seconds of black video between each song, so I have time to stop DP and then cue up the song I want next. But if you put your songs in the right order, you can go seamlessly from one to the next and you should not lose full-screen mode on the video.
I would love it if multiple video clips could be placed at different locations in the same chunk. Using only one chunk also allows me to fully automate the audio mix for our whole show "in the box". Almost all of our lighting cues are automated as MIDI data from DP which goes out to a cheap Behringer lighting controller. This is definitely not what DP was designed for, so it's a struggle and not very user-friendly!
Doug
Here is the workaround I use, but it's not easy. For live use, all of our songs are placed consecutively in one long chunk. Then I imported the video clip for each song into iMovie and turned them into one long clip in the same order as the audio tracks in DP. I exported the clip as a .dv file which I then imported into DP 7.24 (I use this version live because the dv out over firewire function works). If you are using DP 8.06 and the video fullscreen mode, you may want to export the video file from iMovie in a different format (I'm not sure which is best).
Set the start time of the video clip to start right with your first song. Then go in and "fine-tune" the start time of the audio and/or MIDI tracks for your second song until it is in sync with the right portion of the video clip. Do the same for each song. Then create a marker at the beginning of each song to make it easy to cue up each song in the marker window or from DP Control on your iOS device. Handy tip: once you reach this stage, go back to iMovie and mute any audio you don't want to hear in DP, then "re-export" the whole giant video clip and and import it into DP and get rid of the first clip.
Of course, each time you add a new song to your set, you have to go back to iMovie and re-edit your giant video clip. Personally, I put 5-10 seconds of black video between each song, so I have time to stop DP and then cue up the song I want next. But if you put your songs in the right order, you can go seamlessly from one to the next and you should not lose full-screen mode on the video.
I would love it if multiple video clips could be placed at different locations in the same chunk. Using only one chunk also allows me to fully automate the audio mix for our whole show "in the box". Almost all of our lighting cues are automated as MIDI data from DP which goes out to a cheap Behringer lighting controller. This is definitely not what DP was designed for, so it's a struggle and not very user-friendly!
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Re: Video full screen between chunks
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