Varispeed a finished track?

rosindabow · Post by **rosindabow** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:24 pm

Hi all- I am trying to recreate an old effect that used to be readily available when mixing to a tape deck. To speed it up by some percentage. I want the pitch to raise as well. I know how to speed up the track without the pitch change but I definitely want the pitch to raise along with the speed. Is there a plugin that does this? Thanks.

Just a quick heads up - Logic X does this with ease. I have been a DP user since the very early days; Performer 2 (not Digital Performer) - not planning on going anywhere soon nor am I intentionally disparaging MOTU - it's just that I went into Logic to see if they had a solution and ended up with a simple and clear answer. It quite literally has an option in the control bar called Varispeed. Turn it up or down by percentage and out shoots your new mix. You do not even have to bounce in real time. Very cool.
DP - anything like this coming down the shoot soon?

stubbsonic · Post by **stubbsonic** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:49 pm

I'm curious about this. What I currently do is open the mix in Audacity and use its Change Speed function which does this well. But in DP, I don't know.

Dwetmaster · Post by **Dwetmaster** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:41 pm

Open nano sampler, put your soundbite in it, play with pitch bend. Voilà

rosindabow · Post by **rosindabow** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:15 pm

Dwetmaster wrote:Open nano sampler, put your soundbite in it, play with pitch bend. Voilà

That doesn't work. There's a marriage between the speed and pitch that the Varispeed does - as you speed it up the pitch rises commensurately. They need to be locked to each other so just using a pitch wheel - not gonna fly.

crduval · Post by **crduval** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:31 pm

rosindabow wrote:
Dwetmaster wrote:Open nano sampler, put your soundbite in it, play with pitch bend. Voilà
That doesn't work. There's a marriage between the speed and pitch that the Varispeed does - as you speed it up the pitch rises commensurately. They need to be locked to each other so just using a pitch wheel - not gonna fly.

I think it will fly - Pitch bend up will play back the sample faster which will both raise the pitch and speed of the sample - like speeding up a tape. Conversely pitch bend down will play the sample slower dropping the pitch and extending the time. Give it a try!

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rosindabow · Post by **rosindabow** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:44 pm

It does speed up and slow down - but as to the percentage, I'm just guessing. Plus I'm not sure what is being done to the file itself. I was hoping that there would be some program that would work with some type of dithering or at least attempt to keep the file as close to the original as possible. I'm not sure a pitch wheel does that. I guess for a rough idea of what it might sound like this will work. Still looking for something more like the old varispeed control on a tape machine ...

Killahurts · Post by **Killahurts** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:23 pm

rosindabow wrote: Still looking for something more like the old varispeed control on a tape machine ...

My RME hardware does that..

Never tried it

But you know what's better than DP.. and logic.. and any varispeed dinosaur you could come up with?

Mach 5 (version 3).

Yeah it's money, but you want it to be good, don't you?

rosindabow · Post by **rosindabow** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:57 pm

Are you talking about MOTU's Machfive? This has a varispeed option? I own it - I've never looked for it there ...

stubbsonic · Post by **stubbsonic** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:48 am

Killahurts wrote:
My RME hardware does that..

The thing with the RME clock is that you'd need an independent system to capture the audio once you jacked the clock.

Audacity is quick & easy and does percents. Sounds good, too. Just be sure to configure the settings for the level of quality you want. It will do it in a very high quality way.

David Polich · Post by **David Polich** » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:13 pm

There is no "vari-speed" plugin available
for DP, as far as I know (could be wrong,
just havent met one yet). As for a method
of doing it in DP with MOTU native DSP
processing..not gonna happen.

stephentayler · Post by **stephentayler** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:52 am

MachFive, and all samplers, can fine tune the pitch of a sample, which is identical to varispeed.

I have long wanted a simple offline process for varispeeding, or tuning, a soundbite in DP, but have always had to defer to ProTools for this offline process - although it seems this has disappeared in PT 11…. pitch shifting and time stretching gets more and more sophisticated and effective, but this basic need is always forgotten, and several extra steps are needed to get the desired result.

(I hope you-know-who isn't watching!)

SWT

doodles · Post by **doodles** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:28 am

without exporting to Ptools...

how about apple's AUPitch? Or Lexicon pitch shifter? Not in front of computer right now, so can't remember if these 2 would do the job?

rosindabow · Post by **rosindabow** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:36 am

Hello all - still the best I've found recently was the Logic varispeed. Quite elegant ... made me take a look at Logic, something I haven't done in a serious way for quite some time. It was so easy and so well laid out, just change the percentage of the speed and presto, faster/slower and a bit higher or lower, depending on what you want. I'm not leaving DP any time soon ... too many other brilliant ways to record and manipulate audio. It would be nice, just sayin' ...

HCMarkus · Post by **HCMarkus** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:46 am

stephentayler wrote:MachFive, and all samplers, can fine tune the pitch of a sample, which is identical to varispeed.

This.

Tritonemusic · Post by **Tritonemusic** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:05 am

rosindabow wrote:
Dwetmaster wrote:Open nano sampler, put your soundbite in it, play with pitch bend. Voilà
That doesn't work. There's a marriage between the speed and pitch that the Varispeed does - as you speed it up the pitch rises commensurately. They need to be locked to each other so just using a pitch wheel - not gonna fly.

NanoSampler absolutely can do this. I've done it many times.

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