Align sequence beats to audio - SOLVED

[cbergm7210]

I realize this has been beaten to the afterlife so I apologize for the redundancy. Now that I need to do it I have not been successful even after some quality time searching the forum and the manual at this late hour, so...

I have some live tracks. One is the click track where one creative individual has imposed many slight but noticeable tempo changes. All I want to do is to have DP line up the MIDI measures to the click track so I can sequence some additional VI's to beef things up.

I've tried the instructed (per the guide) Analyze Beats, Set Soundbite Tempo, Beat Detection, etc. commands, but I am still failing. A simple step by step would help me out at this point. I do remember a magicd post detailing this but a search on Motunation has come up fruitless for some reason.

I am on 7.24 so I do not know if this is any different in vs 8.xx.

Thanks for the assistance, brotherhood. And apologies for the same question asked again.

[FMiguelez]

Hey, Cberg!

I think what you want to do is easier with Record/Adjust beats. If your click track is a "rubato" audio track, and you can tap along the click, this could be easily done. You could then tweak if afterwards to perfection with Adjust Beats (you can even make the measure snap to the transient of the click, and/or a MIDI note, IIRC). Perhaps try it for 8 or 16 bars and see how you feel about it...

I think that's the easiest way.

If you feel adventurous, I think you could get DP to automatically find the tempo for you by analyzing the click, like you mentioned. But all that setting and adjusting tends to take longer than expected (perhaps you would've done it by now with RB/AB)



Another option. A very cool trick member b.g. taught me long ago:
You probably won't have time for this right now, but If your click track is a MIDI track (or you can get the audio track converted to MIDI, or trigger MIDI from audio), you might find this interesting too.
It's like a self-automated EDITABLE Record Beats track... You basically record MIDI notes (to a tempo, which you can tweak by editing the MIDI notes) and fool DP's Record Beats into thinking the notes-on are your "live" taps, but they aren't (thanks to a MIDI hardware loop).

This is VERY COOL and it has helped me enormously for certain complicated things.
So once your MIDI notes are placed correctly in the timeline (by recording them, following a click, or drawing them based on the audio clicks you see), you invoke the Record Beats command, press play (with this track soloed, of course), and watch DP do it for you perfectly.
In short, is similar to what Extract Tempo From MIDI would gives us, only if it worked... (it gives non-sensical results, unfortunately)

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... +MIDI+loop

Good luck, my friend!

[FMiguelez]

ON SECOND THOUGHT...

For your particular situation, having a dedicated click track, I think you were definitely doing the right thing. Ignore what I said.
DP should have no trouble at all getting tempo from the click track with the beat detection thing. That's all there is in the track, so this the easiest scenario DP could find.

But the thing is, that entire workflow is tricky and seems complicated if you don't have any experience with it, like me.

I don't really use or know much about that command, so I can't help you there.

Sorry about that, Cberg!

[cbergm7210]

Hey, thanks for the thoughts, brother FM. Cool trick with the MIDI track for the record beats!

Yes, I know I am missing something here, as the click track is pretty static, but for some reason wanders around a bit throughout the song. I tried to work my way through, changing the tempo one beat up or down to keep with it on the Conductor track, but after 10 minutes doing this and only a little way through the song I stopped, knowing DP can grab the tempo with the proper steps.

But for some reason my small brain (and late hour?) has let me down as I've tried to "...copy the tempo map from any selected soundbite into the sequence" doing the Adjust Sequence To Soundbite Tempo command as the DP 7 user guide states page 671 to no avail.

I know I'm going to kick myself in the morning for not figuring this out right now, but if someone has a Set Sequence Beats to Audio Click Track For Dummies 5 Step Procedure and can enlighten me I'd buy them a cool beverage as long as they are in beautiful High Ridge, MO right now.

[Dan Worley]

This may help: http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... 27&t=46235

Also, Magic Dave has a five-part series on this type of thing on the MOTUtv youtube channel. Here's the first part: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmbwZpqy ... vC-CjtB6vf

[cbergm7210]

This may help: http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... 27&t=46235

Also, Magic Dave has a five-part series on this type of thing on the MOTUtv youtube channel. Here's the first part: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmbwZpqy ... vC-CjtB6vf

Hey, thanks Dan!

[cbergm7210]

Complete success! Thanks again, everyone.

It is indeed a pretty slick feature.