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32bit to 64bit Bridge

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Can anyone recommend a good, stable 32bit to 64bit bridge? I currently use jBridge, however on Mac it isn't the most stable to run a 32bit vst in DP 64 bit. jBridge randomly shuts down at times forcing me to reload the plugin. I have Bidule but I don't want to host the plugin through Bidule.

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Re: 32bit to 64bit Bridge

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Re: 32bit to 64bit Bridge

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Not sure if this is subscriber content only or not, but SOS has a good article on bridges here.
A new program makes it possible to use your favourite 32-bit plug-ins in any 64-bit DAW
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Re: 32bit to 64bit Bridge

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BKK-OZ wrote:Not sure if this is subscriber content only or not...
It IS indeed. I can't read it. I let my SOS subscription lapse quite a while ago.
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Re: 32bit to 64bit Bridge

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James Steele wrote:
BKK-OZ wrote:Not sure if this is subscriber content only or not...
It IS indeed. I can't read it. I let my SOS subscription lapse quite a while ago.
Oopsey...

Well, the main news is about 'Metaplugin', a kind of Bidule-like plug that can host other plugs.
Read more about it on its product page here.
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Re: 32bit to 64bit Bridge

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I'll give a two thumbs up to 32 lives. I own Jbridge and its worked well, though I've found the interface clunky.
32 lives is a breeze to use and its resurrected a couple of plugins I thought were dead and gone. They load up just like the originals in 64 bit.
After looking at their compatibility chart I find I have a few more oldies I can update. Yay.
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vsoprod wrote:I'll give a two thumbs up to 32 lives. I own Jbridge and its worked well, though I've found the interface clunky.
32 lives is a breeze to use and its resurrected a couple of plugins I thought were dead and gone. They load up just like the originals in 64 bit.
After looking at their compatibility chart I find I have a few more oldies I can update. Yay.
Has it stabilized? I haven't had time to look at it much, but for a while I was doing intense comparison between the too and felt that jBridge, albeit with the less polished presentation, felt more stable than 32 Lives. Also it had more options for the user to attempt to deal with problem plugs. I haven't had a chance to try the latest updated to 32 Lives, so I should give it another go. :)
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Re: 32bit to 64bit Bridge

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I'm good with JBridge so far, mostly AAS, Audio Ease and SFX Machine Pro that need bridging for me.
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Re: 32bit to 64bit Bridge

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I've had no problems with 32 lives so far. It instantly resurrected my B4II and Imposcar.
On the B4II it did a stellar job. With JBridge It only brought back the keyboard instrument. With 32 lives I also got the leslie for use on audio tracks,which is what I really use the most.
I have a few other oldies I had given up on, I think I round them up and convert them.
For the record, I am grateful for JBridge allowing me to use these plugins so quickly after dp 8 came out. Now 32 lives seems to be doing it in a more transparent manner.
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Re: 32bit to 64bit Bridge

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I don't know how many plugs you experimented with, but if you just tried a couple then you may not have run into issues. I found jBridge to be more stable, but as I said before, I have not tired the latest version of 32 Lives. Yes, 32 Lives doesn't present you with many options (aka "transparency") however sometimes the options available per plug in JBridge come in useful. For example jBridgeM has a "Performance Mode" which substantially reduces the CPU hit of Slate FG-X. Granted one of these days, FG-X will be native 64-bit and then it won't matter, but it's a nice little bonus.

I'll have to try it again. There's always the price difference as well. I own both and spent days experimenting with different plug-in sets to try to get projects that were either all bridged with 32-Lives or bridged with jBridgeM and try to compare for stability. I was trying to avoid any mixed environment which could result since not all plugs have VST versions or vice versa. Both 32 Lives and jBridgeM though introduced instability and there were occasional crashes in my system. If anything it illustrates to me why MOTU was wise not to attempt to build bridging into DP.
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Re: 32bit to 64bit Bridge

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My solution is buy them both. JBridge was there right from the beginning and got my most important plugin, Drumagog into 64bit mode and let me ditch 32 bit mode forever. 32 lives brought back all the functionality of my B4II so I got my monies worth from them.
I'm a big believer in the small developer, and figure a few extra bucks keeping these people in business is more than worth it.
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Re: 32bit to 64bit Bridge

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Don't forget to have a look @ Metaplugin. I haven't tried it (I have moved to 64 bits completely now, except for old projects where 32 Lives works well enough.)

The SOS article said Metaplugin is pretty good - goes beyond 32-64 bit wrapping too.
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vsoprod wrote:My solution is buy them both. JBridge was there right from the beginning and got my most important plugin, Drumagog into 64bit mode and let me ditch 32 bit mode forever. 32 lives brought back all the functionality of my B4II so I got my monies worth from them.
I'm a big believer in the small developer, and figure a few extra bucks keeping these people in business is more than worth it.
Agreed. I have them both also. :)
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My solution was to buy Bidule. Then I bought jbridge but never use. PB is all I really needed in the first place.
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Re: 32bit to 64bit Bridge

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Just got 32 lives, and I can say that it works like a charm, easy to set up and you wouldn't even know it's there. I'm a 64 bit user now, yea. I have jbridge and didn't really like using vst's much, and it didn't work on all the plugins. I don't have Bidule, so I don't know about that. :)
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