Options for Fixing the Aftermath of recording with LATENCY

[Maxx]

Good to know, thanks Rainmaker.

Actually, there's nothing wrong with the click in DP. It is fully capable of playing perfectly in time with the grid. What happened in your case is you had plugins on the master bus that delayed the click.

To avoid this make sure there are no plugins on the master bus. Even with plugins on the master bus you can still avoid that latency on the click by doing the following... Set the output of the click to a bus, set up an aux channel with the input assigned to the bus you assigned to the click. Then, you can use an aux send on that aux to send out to a particular channel on your interface for your headphone mix with no latency. This basically sends the click out before it gets delayed by the master bus since it's not actually going through the master bus. There's other ways to do it as well but this works.


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[bayswater]

Don't know what to tell you, Bayswater, but you really can feel the difference.

Phil

Sure you can. I was just ranting randomly. My poorly presented point was that latency is a fact of many aspects of music, and the physical universe, not just a specific technical problem with audio interfaces and computers. Dealing with variations in software induced latency in the order of 5 to 15 ms falls within the range of what we experience anyway. We learn to use it or adapt to it, or ignore it, and move on.

[bayswater]

Orchestras are never in time. They don't need to be, that music is about something else. Ditto btw for intonation. Orchestras are all over the place. Same for grand pianos, their strings are detuned on purpose, they phase constantly by design, the washy mess is what they are about.

Aren't you saying the best way to deal with latency (and imperfect intonation) is not to make it go away?

[Kubi]

Orchestras are never in time. They don't need to be, that music is about something else. Ditto btw for intonation. Orchestras are all over the place. Same for grand pianos, their strings are detuned on purpose, they phase constantly by design, the washy mess is what they are about.

Aren't you saying the best way to deal with latency (and imperfect intonation) is not to make it go away?

I am, when we're talking about that kind of music…

Other kinds, not so much. All depends.

Point is, we have amazing ears when it comes to time (of which pitch is of course a part.) 24 measly still pictures per second, and our lame eyes think something is moving smoothly. But in digital audio you need a minimum resolution of 44100 per second to make something that's supposed to be contiguous appear that way. Yes I know, not exactly the same thing, but close enough...

[bongo_x]

Can’t you take the click and run it through your chain you used and record it back in to see how off it is?

[Phil O]

Can’t you take the click and run it through your chain you used and record it back in to see how off it is?

That makes sense to me. It's basically the way I calibrate my outboard gear. I throw an impulse at the beginning (or end) of a track and look at it coming back from the outboard gear. Then after recording, nudge the resulting track by the same number of samples. Some folks like Latency Fixer, but I find this just as easy with one less pluggin to worry about.

Phil

[Kurt Cowling]

BTW, it's not just the look ahead parameter on a master limiter that can throw things off. The plugin itself can have latency even with no look ahead. Don't put any plugins on the Master Fader during tracking.

[Maxx]

Our best results so far come from live multi-tracking into DP using outboard mixer to monitor.
That is zero latency.

DP Recorded the session.

Live Performances captured. Magic. Little editing.

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[mikehalloran]

RE Nightfly. Roger Nichols did invent the digital drum machine so that Hey Nineteen would lock the way he wanted. He programmed it into a mainframe and called it Wendel.

We could go on all night about delay and what it does. Anyone who ever used SimulSync on a TASCAM deck could hear the phase response - if you wanted to. I can't remember compensating for it ever - or doing anything where it mattered like bouncing 1/2 of a stereo track without te other.

Some of us have a strict rule of no effects while tracking. I'll side-chain some reverb into a headphone mix if someone really insists but that is extremely rare for me.