Logic Pro X

[Killahurts]

http://www.apple.com/logic-pro/whats-new/

The interface looks more like DP to me than it ever has.. especially if you use consolidated windows. They put the transport at the top, and check out the look of those faders!

If MOTU would just give us the little instrument icons on the tracks in the mixing board, I wouldn't feel like l was missing out so much..

It's only $200, but Steven Slate gets my $200 today.. I would rather have his buss compressors than Logic, anytime.

[jlaudon]

Yup, they grabbed stuff and ideas from DP:

-Pitch correction
-Mixer look
-Track stack (track folders)
-consolidated window look with transport at the top
-looks like you can finally see stereo audio tracks as well

And then the price- 199 bucks...with all the instruments and effects included - but does it sound good??

[Kubi]

(Just for clarification, track stacks go well beyond track folders. It's a pretty neat concept if you have to work fast.)

Back to the regularly scheduled program!

[NazRat]

If MOTU would just give us the little instrument icons on the tracks in the mixing board, I wouldn't feel like l was missing out so much..

I think that might be one of the few things that would make me abandon DP. Please, no pretty pictures. Why waste valuable real estate?

[Killahurts]

If MOTU would just give us the little instrument icons on the tracks in the mixing board, I wouldn't feel like l was missing out so much..

I think that might be one of the few things that would make me abandon DP. Please, no pretty pictures. Why waste valuable real estate?

It was just a joke.. I'm like you, I don't want a bunch of kid stuff in my DAW.

[David Polich]

Requires OSX 10.8.4.

Requires 64-bit Audio Unit plug-ins.

That's two deal-breakers for me.

[David Polich]

Also, shouldn't this be moved to the "Off-Topic" section?

[James Steele]

Also, shouldn't this be moved to the "Off-Topic" section?

Yes, actually. Moved.

[toodamnhip]

I love it. Steal away from DP!!

I think ALL the DAWS should steal from each other as much as possible.
(More like “be influenced by” than steal really).

It seems that NO DAW gets it ALL right. All have their advantages.
I don’t know Logic very well, but if I saw something in LOGIC I would like, I want MOTU to put it in DP.

I really hope that ALL DAWS become fantastic and all have about the same WONDERFUL features one day...
I just want to work and get EVERYTHING I want. I don;t go ra ra for any ONE DAW to HAVE IT ALL.
Share brothas, and let the world enjoy the best music!!
Yes, they “stole” DPs pitch design, as did Melodyne.
Now it’s MOTU’s turn.
All you Logic experts out there chime in, and don;t go “ra ra” for DP.
Tell us the GREAT advantages of Logic and let’s ask MOTU to put those in DP too!!!!
Then we can all “ra ra” for ALL DAWS having great features.

[mikehalloran]

Requires OSX 10.8.4.

Requires 64-bit Audio Unit plug-ins.

That's two deal-breakers for me.

You keep voicing that same complaint. As if Apple really cares... Upgrades happen, 32bit code will go away. That it's a deal breaker for you probably doesn't matter to anyone else.

On the second issue, not being able to use VSTs... yes, that would keep me from buying now that DP does. Unless, of course, someone presents me with a project in Logic X and enough money to make it worthwhile to spend the $200 then I will in a second - same reason I have Logic Studio 9. It's a tool.

64bit will become a non-issue in a few years just as PPC vs Intel or OS 9 vs OS X. I suppose I could fire up my G4 in OS 9 and run DP 4.6 - it would work but I just know that I never, ever, ever will again.

[David Polich]

Requires OSX 10.8.4.

Requires 64-bit Audio Unit plug-ins.

That's two deal-breakers for me.

You keep voicing that same complaint. As if Apple really cares... Upgrades happen, 32bit code will go away. That it's a deal breaker for you probably doesn't matter to anyone else.

On the second issue, not being able to use VSTs... yes, that would keep me from buying now that DP does. Unless, of course, someone presents me with a project in Logic X and enough money to make it worthwhile to spend the $200 then I will in a second - same reason I have Logic Studio 9. It's a tool.

64bit will become a non-issue in a few years just as PPC vs Intel or OS 9 vs OS X. I suppose I could fire up my G4 in OS 9 and run DP 4.6 - it would work but I just know that I never, ever, ever will again.

I know Apple doesn't care..that's not my point. My point is, currently, lack
of 32-bit implementation is still a big deal for me because I still depend on some plugs and VI's that aren't 64-bit - Sound Toys significantly being one of them. And I'm not the only person in this situation.

Actually, I'm still running 7.24 for everything and am a totally happy camper. When all my necessary plugs and VI's are 64-bit, I'll move back to
DP 8 64 bit.

[mikehalloran]

When all my necessary plugs and VI's are 64-bit, I'll move back to
DP 8 64 bit.

"I'm just tryin' to keep my customer satisfied, satisfied..."

Wow, I just listened to that album in my studio on my Equator monitors. I heard a few things I never heard before.

[Michael Canavan]

I don’t know Logic very well, but if I saw something in LOGIC I would like, I want MOTU to put it in DP.

"Capture last take as recording" - best Logic only feature by far! Essentially anything you play MIDI wise is always loaded into a buffer if record is armed, even when you aren't recording. I would bet this is true for all DAWs but in the Emagic days they saw the "logic" in allowing the end user to access that buffer. Have you ever wanted to capture a groove you can barely play that you pull off perfectly when practicing it? hit "capture last take.." and the notes you just played appear on the timeline.

[waddo]

It's the copy protection with DP that is pushing me towards Logic. I recently got a new imac and used migration assistant to move everything across. DP however want me to insert the CD and type in the key code. No dvd drives in most macs now.

So, even though I have been a paying customer for donkeys years, I am thinking I need to find and illegal copy of DP7, export a few projects and say bye-bye once and for all.

I understand why MOTU use copy protection, but it's not transferring to a new computer is not acceptable now with the new DVDless macs.

my two cents worth . . .

[bralston]

It's the copy protection with DP that is pushing me towards Logic. I recently got a new imac and used migration assistant to move everything across. DP however want me to insert the CD and type in the key code. No dvd drives in most macs now.

So, even though I have been a paying customer for donkeys years, I am thinking I need to find and illegal copy of DP7, export a few projects and say bye-bye once and for all.

I understand why MOTU use copy protection, but it's not transferring to a new computer is not acceptable now with the new DVDless macs.

my two cents worth . . .

MOTU fixed that in DP8. Just FYI. The copy protection auth procedure no longer requires a CD. So if that matters to you as much as it sounds like it does, upgrade and problem solved.