Mountain Lion and 828 mk3 default settings issue

[xgman]

I'm on firewire and also tried usb but no diff. I don't know why the start mac first workaround doesn't have any effect on the problem for me. I just want to be able to change the default Output to something other than Analog. How hard can that be to allow us to simply change the Motu default? It would more or less solve this issue.

[bayswater]

If changing it using the MOTU setup app doesn't work, then changing the default won't work. It's the same operation.

Maybe saving a hardware preset with it set up the way you want to preserve the output settings when you power it up.

[xgman]

If changing it using the MOTU setup app doesn't work, then changing the default won't work. It's the same operation.

Maybe saving a hardware preset with it set up the way you want to preserve the output settings when you power it up.

The default clean install position of the Motu is Analog 1 & 2. So if we can change the "default" position maybe even in firmware, then it would work. Even if you turn the 828 off and power on after you have restarted, then you have to go into System Preferences/Sound to re-select the 828 as in and out device. It should be something they can help us with but it is easier to say it's Apple's fault and do nothing. The very similar M-Audio 2626 Profire for instance, has none of these issues, so it can be done.

[bayswater]

Even if you turn the 828 off and power on after you have restarted, then you have to go into System Preferences/Sound to re-select the 828 as in and out device.

I don't have that problem. Maybe it's specific to your setup.

[xgman]

Even if you turn the 828 off and power on after you have restarted, then you have to go into System Preferences/Sound to re-select the 828 as in and out device.

I don't have that problem. Maybe it's specific to your setup.

It is specific to the 2012 Apple hardware, at least the imacs and some of the macbook pros when running 1-0.8.2. The new hardware interacts a bit differently with the audio interfaces. I wouldn't count on Apple to be very cooperative on how to workaround this, so I'm probably stuck with it.

[phattgrooves]

Hi there!.

Not only with 2012 hardware.I have a 2010 imac and i have the same problem.The response of MOTU was change default output in Motu Audio Setup.

Seriously, there isn't other really solution?

Regards from Spain.

[xgman]

Hi there!.

Not only with 2012 hardware.I have a 2010 imac and i have the same problem.The response of MOTU was change default output in Motu Audio Setup.

Seriously, there isn't other really solution?

Regards from Spain.

As you have seen that change doesn't stick unless you power off your MK3 before starting your computer etc. I'm calling for us to be able to flash (in effect) a different true default Output so in fact it will stick if it gets reset by a reboot with power staying on the 828mk3. (anyway something along those lines) I've gotten used to having to change the Output on the MK3 software at each reboot, but it still should be fixed.

I've also noticed that in 10.8.2, in some audio software, even if you have the 828 selected as the OSX system output device, no sound will output on some software such as some standalone synths that don't have a mapping option for instance to send spdif out over 11 & 12, or toslink over 15 & 16 etc. So on those you get no sound output. I don't get why those apps just don't use the same path as the OSX system sounds setting.

[NazRat]

I've also noticed that in 10.8.2, in some audio software, even if you have the 828 selected as the OSX system output device, no sound will output on some software such as some standalone synths that don't have a mapping option for instance to send spdif out over 11 & 12, or toslink over 15 & 16 etc. So on those you get no sound output. I don't get why those apps just don't use the same path as the OSX system sounds setting.

I don't believe that this is just ML, software that maps to the first pair of outputs presented by the driver has been problematic in all OS releases. In the case of the 828mk3/828mk2 that would be Analog 1/2.

[bayswater]

I don't believe that this is just ML, software that maps to the first pair of outputs presented by the driver has been problematic in all OS releases. In the case of the 828mk3/828mk2 that would be Analog 1/2.

That's a pita with a lot of apps the insist on using Analog 1/2 regardless of any settings. Maybe MOTU could put an end to it all by defining Main Out as the first two outputs instead of the 9th and 10th.

[xgman]

Also some apps like Mainstage and some others don't allow you to choose pairs as 13-14 or 14-15 for s/pdif and optical so you get no sound at all even though system sounds are fine. Something is not well thought out here.

[Windle]

Same issue with the 828 forgetting the Outputs after upgrading a 2010 iMac from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion. Mk 3 connected with FireWire.
I have to manually set them each time I boot up in MOTU Audio Setup, in System Preferences to make it the default Sound Output and in Cubase 6.5 (even for files saved since updating to ML).
It's not a showstopper but it is frustrating when it worked before.
MOTU can blame Apple all they like but I suspect Apple won't care a jot so it's probably better for MOTU to be looking for a solution for their customers.

[mikehalloran]

Hmmmm... I always power up my 828mkII after I power up my Mac so I never knew of this problem - which isn't for me.

I just did a project in DP 7.24 with an Avid device on a 2011 iMac and it worked the same way.

[Windle]

Hmmmm... I always power up my 828mkII after I power up my Mac so I never knew of this problem - which isn't for me.

Interesting thoughts, Mike.

I just did a quick test and turned on the 828mkIII AFTER the computer for once (always thought this was a bad thing to do for some reason?!) and it does indeed seem to remember far better.
The Audio Setup didn't remember Clock Source but got Default Output and Input right and Cubase also seemed to remember the Optical Outputs.

Looks like I'll have to remember this new sequence of turning on.

Thank you.

W.

[xgman]

It's been a long time since Motu updated anything regarding the 828's. I wish this could be fixed. Also the 828 sometimes drops out to where you have to reset the firewire connection to get it back.

[xgman]

Can we possibly now get a workaround for this issue? Apple is obviously not going to address this on their end.