Harrison Mix Bus for $40 (Audio MIDI no-brainer deal)

[Prime Mover]

LOL, I was JUST thinking the same thing! In fact, that's sort of what I was getting at in my earlier post. But actually, it's not really too far off from how the surround panners work. They're MAS plugins (outside the insert chain!) that dictate how the panner functions. All MOTU would have to do is essentially copy the same protocol to something that would do that for the entire channel (fader, panner, sends).

But we're probably going over our heads here. The need for something like this is really small, considering how complicated it probably would be. If you want the "sound" of analog mixers, use one of the highly acclaimed console insert plugins. The differences are going to be negligible.

[bayswater]

Why is 32 bit a deal breaker? You can't run VIs in it, so it's unlikely anyone is going to load enough effects into it to break a 4G barrier using this thing. There are many reasons to pass this up, but because it's 32 bit ???

[kgdrum]

Why is 32 bit a deal breaker? You can't run VIs in it, so it's unlikely anyone is going to load enough effects into it to break a 4G barrier using this thing. There are many reasons to pass this up, but because it's 32 bit ???

Well I'm in 64bit,I will not buy anything now that's still 32bit.

[Shooshie]

Why is 32 bit a deal breaker? You can't run VIs in it, so it's unlikely anyone is going to load enough effects into it to break a 4G barrier using this thing. There are many reasons to pass this up, but because it's 32 bit ???

Well I'm in 64bit,I will not buy anything now that's still 32bit.

That's what I said until I tried Slate's FG-X compressor. That's when I broke down and acquired JBridge. But that's my only one. So far.

Shoosh

[bayswater]

Why is 32 bit a deal breaker? You can't run VIs in it, so it's unlikely anyone is going to load enough effects into it to break a 4G barrier using this thing. There are many reasons to pass this up, but because it's 32 bit ???

Well I'm in 64bit,I will not buy anything now that's still 32bit.

As long is an app does what you need, why does it's bit length matter? You can run 32 bit applications when your system was started up in 64 bit mode. You probably have a few running on your mac. Even if you this app in conjunction with DP running in 64 bit mode, it makes no difference that it is running in 32 bit mode.

[bayswater]

Why is 32 bit a deal breaker? You can't run VIs in it, so it's unlikely anyone is going to load enough effects into it to break a 4G barrier using this thing. There are many reasons to pass this up, but because it's 32 bit ???

Well I'm in 64bit,I will not buy anything now that's still 32bit.

That's what I said until I tried Slate's FG-X compressor. That's when I broke down and acquired JBridge. But that's my only one. So far.

Shoosh

You wouldn't run this within DP, so you don't need a bridge. It runs on it's own along side other 32 and 64 bit apps running at the same time.

[Shooshie]

Well I'm in 64bit,I will not buy anything now that's still 32bit.

That's what I said until I tried Slate's FG-X compressor. That's when I broke down and acquired JBridge. But that's my only one. So far.

Shoosh

You wouldn't run this within DP, so you don't need a bridge. It runs on it's own along side other 32 and 64 bit apps running at the same time.

Oh, I understand that, but I don't have much use for another mixing environment. At least, that's what I've been telling myself. But I have been keeping up with this thread. Just in case!

[bayswater]

Oh, I understand that, but I don't have much use for another mixing environment. At least, that's what I've been telling myself. But I have been keeping up with this thread. Just in case!

Yes, it's an amusing distraction more than anything else, but being 32 bit is not a good reason to reject it.

[kgdrum]

I don't want to spend any more money on 32bit apps or support companies that I don't think are moving forward in a honest and timely manner.
One example SoundToys just released Radiator as a 32bit app.
I think the fact that they are releasing it at this time with a 10 day discounted upgrade from little Radiator to me is offensive.
They are giving users a small time window to get a deal on the upgrade but I don't feel like they've felt a similar urgency to update their plugs.
I'd rather pay more to update later if I decide i want to upgrade & see they've finally updated the plug to 64bit.

Yeah we can still use 32 bit plugs but I've chosen not to add more to my system or spend any more money on them.

I guess I've drawn a 64bit line in the sand.
32bit was just 1 reason I will not buy The Harisson,I think it's too limited and you have to jump through more hoops to utilize it than I think it's worth.
I want to make my workflow simpler and more immediate,this for me doesn't translate as a tool for helping streamline my workflow.

I have purchased too many NoBrainers that in hindsight were not worthwhile long term even at "bargain" pricing.

This looks like a distress sale of abandon-ware to me,some "bargains"
I pass on for a few reasons,32bit in this case is just one of them.

[Armageddon]

I've been singing the praises of this one for a while, broke down and acquired it some time back. I have yet to do a test mix in it, to see if the advantages of using Mixbus for an audio mix would be better than just doing it inside DP, but that's mainly because my system is so slow, the only way I'd be able to do it is to render out all my VIs' audio tracks, import them into Mixbus and do it that way.

The whole idea of Mixbus is to use it as a virtual console/summing mixer, although you can also use it as an audio-only DAW like I'd have to, so it would be running alongside DP and have audio streamed to its own channels from DP's outputs via Jack OSX (which, I believe, has a 64-bit version that you can install right from the Mixbus installer). In other words, it just treats DP like a virtual multi-track tape machine. For all I know, you could theoretically have 64-bit VIs running in DP, streamed via Jack OSX into Mixbus and mix that way, if need be.

[ramadev]

BTW the $40 deal has been extended through Sunday Jan. 6.

[dpg4macman]

I am and always will be a DP user and fan. I am for the most part a hobbyist and one of my biggest joys in life is mixing. I purchased MB for $40 just because of the built in Harrison eq and compression as well as the Tape saturation on every bus and master bus. I was considering buying a tape sat plugin for DP which would have cost $250 to $350 alone. MB has it built in. I've been playing around with it now for a month or so mixing my live shows and it sounds great and is fun. Not really a huge learning curve for the seasoned daw user. Yes I dive right back into DP for writing and recording and editing. I don't think there will ever be a daw out there that will completely replace my DP. Bought S1 a year or so ago and never open it any more.(just sayin)

My thoughts,

mvh

[Klaus]

........
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...... Jack OSX (which, I believe, has a 64-bit version that you can install right from the Mixbus installer)..........snip

Isn't Jack running always, once installed ? ( adding processing cycles / latency )
I think to remember something like that when I bought Mixbus 1...
then decided to uninstall ...

Klaus

[bayswater]

........
snip
...... Jack OSX (which, I believe, has a 64-bit version that you can install right from the Mixbus installer)..........snip

Isn't Jack running always, once installed ? ( adding processing cycles / latency )
I think to remember something like that when I bought Mixbus 1...
then decided to uninstall ...

Klaus

No. There. Is a small app to start the jack server and configure the channels. Whe you start it, it uses about 25% as much CPU as Core Audio, so even if it's running it doesn't matter that much.