DP8..wow..and not in a good way

[sdfalk]

1.As I'm playing a loop with memory cycle enabled, Dp will just start and stop randomly
on its own.
2.In 32 bit mode (to run UA plugins, sessions that ran fine under DP7.24 run out of memory "immediately "
(now I have reported some of this on Motus site as well as a crashing issues..which are many
and often...there working on it)
According to the tech person I'm working with, DP8 under 32 bit would use a little more ram,
b ut not much more then DP 7.24.
He figured my session was near the tipping point in DP 7.24 and 8 just pushed it over the
edge. I went back to DP 7.24 and added more VI's and plugins..nope...that's not it.
3.random cashes in the middle of playback with seemingly no rhyme nor reason..(of course
there's a reason, I just haven't found it yet)

Now I'm aware it may be because I'm running both versions of DP on my system, but ive done
that in the past, and never ran into this many issues.
I do like the fact that DP 8runs far more efficiently under 64bit, but there's just to many
random errors and weirdness for me right now.
Waiting hopefully for an update, and meanwhile back to 7.24

[bayswater]

Not good. I have the same Macs and OS as you, but not the UAD (except 8G in the iMac, soon to be 16G). It seems to me that DP 8 (64) is not able to handle small buffers as well as DP 7 (32). I'm using 256 in cases where I would have used 128 in DP 7. I also had some dropouts when using Mach Five (fixed by increasing Max Work %), and I sometimes get the keyboard control problem. Otherwise, everything is fine compared to V7, if not a little smoother. Maybe DP 8 is not playing well with the UAD.

[sdfalk]

Not good. I have the same Macs and OS as you, but not the UAD (except 8G in the iMac, soon to be 16G). It seems to me that DP 8 (64) is not able to handle small buffers as well as DP 7 (32). I'm using 256 in cases where I would have used 128 in DP 7. I also had some dropouts when using Mach Five (fixed by increasing Max Work %), and I sometimes get the keyboard control problem. Otherwise, everything is fine compared to V7, if not a little smoother. Maybe DP 8 is not playing well with the UAD.

It's possible Uad is the issue..or it's possible mountain lion is the issue..
I have emails in with both ua and motu though.
We shall see.

[sdfalk]

I have to add that motu tech support has been awesome..
They've answered me really REALLY fast on every question I had..
I know they're certainly doing their best , and I for one appreciate there
Hard work.

.

[teed]

sad to say but it seems MOTU has no intention of fixing a GIANT problem in
DP8 - no integrated bridge to use 32 and 64 bit at the same time. check out
this patronizing response from MOTU:

"we did consider adding a bridge at one time, but did not because most plug-ins are moving to 64-bit (albeit some slower rather than surely). For example, you mentioned owning Waves, who recently moved into Waves 9, which is 64-bit compatible. Though I do realize an upgrade of this magnitude is easier said than done (especially for one's wallet), because, as I also mentioned, I am an end-user as well, so I do sympathize with you.

YIKES!!

[Radiogal]

sad to say but it seems MOTU has no intention of fixing a GIANT problem in
DP8 - no integrated bridge to use 32 and 64 bit at the same time. check out
this patronizing response from MOTU:

"we did consider adding a bridge at one time, but did not because most plug-ins are moving to 64-bit (albeit some slower rather than surely). For example, you mentioned owning Waves, who recently moved into Waves 9, which is 64-bit compatible. Though I do realize an upgrade of this magnitude is easier said than done (especially for one's wallet), because, as I also mentioned, I am an end-user as well, so I do sympathize with you.

YIKES!!

Ah your second post is a copy of your first one..
I paste in my reply here then.. Hope you read it:

Your first post?

Ever heard of JBridge?? it´s written here all over the place.. read it, use it, buy it (almost for free) and stop complaining... Really!!!

[Gravity Jim]

Patronizing? Seriously? Just how gently do you want your butt kissed?

The lack of a bridge is not a GIANT PROBLEM in DP. Drop by the Logic forum and see what a GIANT PROBLEM an integrated bridge can be.

Go big or go home.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

sad to say but it seems MOTU has no intention of fixing a GIANT problem in
DP8 - no integrated bridge to use 32 and 64 bit at the same time. check out
this patronizing response from MOTU:

"we did consider adding a bridge at one time, but did not because most plug-ins are moving to 64-bit (albeit some slower rather than surely). For example, you mentioned owning Waves, who recently moved into Waves 9, which is 64-bit compatible. Though I do realize an upgrade of this magnitude is easier said than done (especially for one's wallet), because, as I also mentioned, I am an end-user as well, so I do sympathize with you.

YIKES!!

Sounds like you should find yourself another DAW.

[bayswater]

We really ought to take up a collection so we can get a copy of jBridgeM for Mr. Teed. I guess things are tougher than I knew for pros like him. I feel personally responsible.

[kgdrum]

We really ought to take up a collection so we can get a copy of jBridgeM for Mr. Teed. I guess things are tougher than I knew for pros like him. I feel personally responsible.

lol funny!

But what really has me knocked out is how good jbridge actually is,it works & I don't see it causing any issues with
DP8!
It's remarkable how well this app works & at $13,it's a real bargain.
My only regret is I wish I had gotten it a couple of weeks ago.

[James Steele]

sad to say but it seems MOTU has no intention of fixing a GIANT problem in
DP8 - no integrated bridge to use 32 and 64 bit at the same time. check out
this patronizing response from MOTU:

"we did consider adding a bridge at one time, but did not because most plug-ins are moving to 64-bit (albeit some slower rather than surely). For example, you mentioned owning Waves, who recently moved into Waves 9, which is 64-bit compatible. Though I do realize an upgrade of this magnitude is easier said than done (especially for one's wallet), because, as I also mentioned, I am an end-user as well, so I do sympathize with you.

YIKES!!

[sdfalk]

sad to say but it seems MOTU has no intention of fixing a GIANT problem in
DP8 - no integrated bridge to use 32 and 64 bit at the same time. check out
this patronizing response from MOTU:

"we did consider adding a bridge at one time, but did not because most plug-ins are moving to 64-bit (albeit some slower rather than surely). For example, you mentioned owning Waves, who recently moved into Waves 9, which is 64-bit compatible. Though I do realize an upgrade of this magnitude is easier said than done (especially for one's wallet), because, as I also mentioned, I am an end-user as well, so I do sympathize with you.

YIKES!!

Well..
Since what I'd posted has very little to do with that response, please refrain from posting
anything..unless it's useful.
I'm just looking to see how everyone else is doing with DP, and if they've had similar
concerns.
I've subsequently removed DP7 from my system, and reinstalled DP8 from scratch.
The crashes have disappeared (for now) but I have an issue with sound cutting in and out
when I'm setting up cycle record.
(Anyone else have a similar problem?)
I even removed the bridge software and the problem still persists.
I've subsequently reinstalled, and my Uad plugins are back.
I'll keep everyone appraised,if I get any answers.

Cheers

[David Polich]

Here's the thing - DP 7.24 and DP 8 in 32 bit mode would be basically the
same thing...and if you have installed DP8, you'll get the new plug-ins
showing up in DP7.24.

Why not just stick with 7.24 for the time being? And wait for UAD to go 64-bit, and then you can move on.

[sdfalk]

Here's the thing - DP 7.24 and DP 8 in 32 bit mode would be basically the
same thing...and if you have installed DP8, you'll get the new plug-ins
showing up in DP7.24.

Why not just stick with 7.24 for the time being? And wait for UAD to go 64-bit, and then you can move on.

Should have been clearer..i AM running DP 7.24... on my iMac.
Im running 8 on my macbook pro..
thanks though

Since Motu Tech support has responded very quickly with every question I've been asking,
I figured Id leave DP8 on my Macbook Pro for now it's mostly workable at this stage..
(Editing etc..), and try and go through some issues directly with Motu in hopes they
can be solved..anything I can do to help them Make DP better..I shall