Insert plug-in

[supersonic]

Hi,

Has anyone stumbled upon a plug in that will do a simple insert round trip within one track or aux?

Any cues deeply appreciated

[NazRat]

I don't know of any, but have used the MOTU suggestion box a couple of times on this one. Maybe in a future update . . .

http://www.motu.com/other/feedback/suggestions

There must be a fair degree of difficulty with this (delay compensation) or I'd think you would see several available. In PT you have to manually measure and enter the device latency for hardware inserts.

[donreynolds]

I am not sure I am understanding the post correctly. Are yo talking about a plugin that automatically calculates the latency if you use a hardware device through and aux and have the signal return into DP such as in re-amping, or reverb or something? The plugin Buffy is used to compensate for latency is it not. You do have to calculate manually though. If I am totally off base here please disregard my ignorance.

[NazRat]

I think the OP wants something that sends it out and brings it back on the same channel strip - i.e. insert an outboard compressor/limiter on a track.

[stephentayler]

I think the OP means a plugin that can access the outputs and inputs of the audio interface (send/return) within a single plugin insert - and I don't think that is possible - it would have to be achieved by using two channels.


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Stephen

[donreynolds]

Understood. Yeah, I can see where that would be a nice plugin.

[Dwetmaster]

Actually I believe by using Plogue Bidule you can do it.
Bidule is an outside application that allows you to host VI/plugins and they have an AU plugin that allows you to insert Bidule on a track in DP. I've never tried it but I think I can imagine a way to insert the Bidule plugin on a track, then in the Bidule application, route your audio interface to outboard stuff and then back.

Google "Plogue Bidule" and you'll find it easily.

BTW Bidule does WAY more than plugin hosting. It is VERY powerful.

[supersonic]

Protools, Cubase and Logic all have that functionality and it seems so basic it is strange MOTU has not done it yet . But I love DP so much there is no way I am switching to anything else just for that . Right now I simply do a return on another track. Besides, now that I have the full set of UAD Apollo plug-ins and using outboard during recording only this is not so much of an issue any more. It is just that I wanted to try out this funky Analog Blumlein Shuffler and I was looking for a neat solution for this. I'll survive without. And I have also put it in the suggestion box at MOTU.

[ExpressMix]

Just to add to the discussion while I lurk and wait for DP8 Win, yes, it's pretty common to use an included plugin for that, to insert a hardware device anywhere in the insert chain, even on a channel in-between other digital plugins.

The insert plugs for doing that in various places just does a simple send and return back to the same plug and channel and pretty much auto-calculates the latency by pinging the send and measuring the return signal latency, although, on Win with ASIO the I/O hardware latency is pretty much already known to the system.

Some of them even do parallel processing, mixing the returned outboard signal with the original, to taste.

[supersonic]

What is also curious is that none of the independent developers hasn't done it...

[bayswater]

What is also curious is that none of the independent developers hasn't done it...

I would guess that's because the DP user base is the extent of the market for it. Doesn't every other daw include it?

[ExpressMix]

They're all (the various bundled insert plugs) about 90% the same. This one example below is VST3 mono or stereo and stores the I/O configs and settings like any plugin preset.

Pipeline

I don't insert hardware when mixing very much anymore so it's not a big deal either way to me personally

[supersonic]

They're all (the various bundled insert plugs) about 90% the same. This one example below is VST3 mono or stereo and stores the I/O configs and settings like any plugin preset.

Pipeline

I don't insert hardware when mixing very much anymore so it's not a big deal either way to me personally

Would it work with DP given 8 can now use vst?

[NazRat]

Unless this one is different, the Studio One plugs are proprietary like the MAS plugs in DP - they don't show up in other DAWs. Also, VST3 is not supported in DP (yet).

[supersonic]

Ok. Back to AUX then