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Re: what's going to work with dp 8 what's not?

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Thanks Zed...I will check my version with fxpansion...I suspect that was the good news...I have a feeling Mach 5 V2 will be the bad....thanks again :)
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Re: what's going to work with dp 8 what's not?

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zed wrote:Oh oh... another one...

I decided to work on one of my projects tonight that utilizes fabulous Sitar instrument I am using is from a NI Kore Library that I purchased a few years ago. North India, I think it is called.

Kore 2 is a 32-bit application/plugin and I believe NI discontinued it, if I am not mistaken. So my go-to Sitar library is now looking like it will not make the transition.

I think I am going to be spending most of my time working with DP8 in 32-bit mode for a long time. There are so many situations in which I am going to be stuck.

If anyone knows how a Kore 2 Library can be utilized outside of the Kore Player, please let me know. Maybe NI has made the latest version of Kontakt able to read Kore libraries? That would be great if it were true.
Kore 2 was updated almost a year ago to 64 bit compatibility. Go grab the update and check your other plug ins for updates! all the kids are doing it now! :wink:
It is discontinued but it seems to work in Mountain Lion OK, so for a while things should be good.
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Just to confirm.... Waves has this posted as of today.

http://www.wavesupport.net/Content.aspx?id=4391


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Michael Canavan wrote:Kore 2 was updated almost a year ago to 64 bit compatibility. Go grab the update and check your other plug ins for updates! all the kids are doing it now! :wink:
That's great news Michael, thanks!

I presume they also updated the Free Kore Player to 64-bit as well. That's what I'm downloading right now.

I feel encouraged. :-)
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jeez I don't know if the Kore player got updated? NI have pulled boners like that in the past. I would check the info button next to the download button on their site, If it doesn't say it was updated for 64 bit compatibility then it wasn't, as 64 bit was their last update before stopping development.
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Michael Canavan wrote:jeez I don't know if the Kore player got updated? NI have pulled boners like that in the past. I would check the info button next to the download button on their site, If it doesn't say it was updated for 64 bit compatibility then it wasn't, as 64 bit was their last update before stopping development.
There was no info, except to say that the product is discontinued and that the Kore Player 2.11 download is only available for users who already have a serial number (which I do have). I downloaded and then just sent a note to NI asking about this. If NI didn't update the player to 64-bit, then I will press them to give me a serial number and download for the full version.

I don't know how they would discontinue Kore without leaving users with some means of being able to continue using their the Kore packs. You'd think Kontakt would be able to import Kore packs and convert them into Kontakt format somehow.
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Yeah Zed
Kore the way NI abandoned Kore was a real shame.
I have the North India library in Audio format , I love it and have been trying to figure out the easiest way to use it.
I originally got it to use with an Akai sampler I sold recently and I have a several audio cd sample sets I'd love to keep using. I've never tried importing and mapping into Kontakt but I guess I need to try that,what a pain in the ass.lol
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Pretty sure anything past 2.04 is 64 bit but don't quote me on it. Let us know if it is OK? if I ever want to sell kore it would be good to know if the sound packs I have for it would have to be included in that sale.
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Pretty sure anything past 2.04 is 64 bit but don't quote me on it. Let us know if it is OK? if I ever want to sell kore it would be good to know if the sound packs I have for it would have to be included in that sale.
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So far, the only things I've had to say goodbye to (at least at 64 bits) are:

Miroslav Philharmonik
Sampletank 2
Tassman 4 (Synth by AAS)
Ultra Analog (same as above)
MOTU Symphonic Instrument (which I haven't used in years)
Bias Soundsoap (ditto)

The following is not working in my system, but appears to be a 64 bit plugin:
Kontakt 4.
It may be due to some reason unique to my system, so I don't want to put it in the list of things that do not work.

The truth is that I no longer use any of those except for the AAS synths and Miroslav. I may have to look for a replacement for Miroslav, but I hardly used it, anyway, except for the flute.

The following ARE working for me in 64 bit DP8:

Altiverb 7
Nomad Factory Plugins
Waves 9 (all)
Wallander Instruments
Mach5.3
Garritan Aria Player and libraries
Ivory (all)
PSP plugins (all)
Vienna Symphonic Library
Vienna Ensemble
LAME

I'm probably leaving some things out. I'll add to the list if I think of it.

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Shooshie wrote:Kontakt 4
Crap. I didn't realize I was going to have to do that upgrade in order for DP8 to work in 64-bit.

My plan had been to buy Komplete 8 or 9 or whatever it was when it went on sale this summer/September, but I didn't have enough money to tackle it this year (and neither did I hear about the usual big NI sale). I'm not that keen on an individual Kontakt upgrade when I wanted to upgrade the whole Komplete schibango. I guess I'll have to find out how much it will set me back to do the Kontakt upgrade individually.
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For those who use Dynamic Spectrum Mapper, I just read on the developer site that the 64-bit version is in beta (Mac AU and VST). The upcoming versions will require an iLok 2.

http://www.proaudiodsp.com/
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Zed, I may be wrong about that. I just looked at the Kontakt 4 stand alone player, and it's a 64 bit app. Kontakt 4 didn't come up in my plugin list in DP8, but it may have been for other reasons. At first, neither did Altiverb or Wallander Instruments. I reinstalled Wallander, and it worked fine. Altiverb? I haven't figured it out yet, but the MAS version is not working. The AU and VST versions both work. My presets didn't transfer to the AU version, though, so I'm still trying to figure out what happened to the MAS version.

So, there may be some other factor that's keeping Kontakt 4 from working. I'm going to take it off my list of things that don't work, because it actually appears to be a 64 bit plugin, assuming that app and plugin are the same.

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Thanks Shoosh.

The truth is that it is certainly time for me to deal with a Kontakt upgrade. I have been in a condition for almost 2 years now where the plugin was upgraded by their Service Centre, while the standalone was not. I think the deal is that you have to pay for an upgrade to get them both upgraded... at least that is what I assumed. So often when I try to run something in standalone, it refuses to load the instrument because my preset has been saved in a more current version of Kontakt 4 (i.e. my plugin version).

I will be happy to upgrade to Kontakt 5... though I would like to do it at a time when money is not quite so tight, and when I can get a good deal on the upgrade.

But for now, let's hope that maybe Kontakt 4 is actually 64-bit. I had thought that K4 was pretty 64-bit from very early on.
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Shooshie wrote:So far, the only things I've had to say goodbye to (at least at 64 bits) are:

Miroslav Philharmonik
Sampletank 2

MOTU Symphonic Instrument (which I haven't used in years)
Bias Soundsoap (ditto)

The following is not working in my system, but appears to be a 64 bit plugin:
Kontakt 4.

Shooshie
Miroslav Philharmonik-Ouch!
Sampletank 2-Ouch!
MOTU Symphonic Instrument (which I haven't used in years)

WHatever happened to Symphonic? It’s funny how companies just abandon certain products. How could they just abandon that, they seemed so proud of it when it came out? Or did they?

"The following is not working in my system, but appears to be a 64 bit plugin:
Kontakt 4.”
That’s cuz Kontakt knows you hate it...baaaad Kontakt Karma....
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