Waves 9 NOT COMPATIBLE with DP!
Moderator: James Steele
Forum rules
This forum is for most discussion related to the use and optimization of Digital Performer [MacOS] and plug-ins as well as tips and techniques. It is NOT for troubleshooting technical issues, complaints, feature requests, or "Comparative DAW 101."
This forum is for most discussion related to the use and optimization of Digital Performer [MacOS] and plug-ins as well as tips and techniques. It is NOT for troubleshooting technical issues, complaints, feature requests, or "Comparative DAW 101."
- Prime Mover
- Posts: 2449
- Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:19 am
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: Fairbanks, Alaska
Re: Waves 9 NOT COMPATIBLE with DP!
I just hope this gets figured out before November rolls around. That's when my WUP dissolves. I find it hard to believe it won't get figured out by then, though.
— Eric Barker
Eel House
"All's fair in love, war, and the recording studio"
MacPro 1,1 2Ghz 7GB RAM OS 10.6.8 | MacBook Pro 13" i5 1.8Ghz 16GB RAM OS 10.8.2
DP7/8 | Komplete 7 | B4II | Korg Legacy Analog | Waves v9 (various) | Valhalla Room | EWQLSO Gold
MOTU 828mkII | MOTU 8pre | Presonus BlueTube | FMR RNC
Themes: Round is Right and Alloy
Eel House
"All's fair in love, war, and the recording studio"
MacPro 1,1 2Ghz 7GB RAM OS 10.6.8 | MacBook Pro 13" i5 1.8Ghz 16GB RAM OS 10.8.2
DP7/8 | Komplete 7 | B4II | Korg Legacy Analog | Waves v9 (various) | Valhalla Room | EWQLSO Gold
MOTU 828mkII | MOTU 8pre | Presonus BlueTube | FMR RNC
Themes: Round is Right and Alloy
-
- Posts: 256
- Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: Dallas
Re: Waves 9 NOT COMPATIBLE with DP!
And to top it all off, the new V9 logo is absolutely horrific.
- malditoyanki
- Posts: 315
- Joined: Tue May 08, 2007 2:57 pm
- Primary DAW OS: Unspecified
Re: Waves 9 NOT COMPATIBLE with DP!
Well I know it's weird, but they DO work as long you never try to remove a plugin. Think of it as a challenge...writing a novel with no eraser.pounce wrote:how do AU plug ins stop being compatible if they follow the AU spec to begin with?
this all seems weird. want to get this figured out while I still have the WUP coverage.
holding off on updating my waves plug ins till DP and Peak are compatible (my two most used audio programs)

All my old (and complicated) sequences opened and worked great. I know it's a bummer. DP8 is (allegedly) just around the corner and I'l wager dollars to doughnuts we'll be sorted out then.
Intel 6core 3.33 Ghz Westmere 48 gigs ram, MOTU micro lite, OS 10.9, DP 8.06, Apogee Symphony I/O, PLAY, most WAVES v9 plugs, Slate plugins, Soundtoys, ProTools 10, Kontakt 5, Omni, Stylus, Ivory
"DON'T fail me again, Admiral..."
"DON'T fail me again, Admiral..."
- rknaub
- Posts: 21
- Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: San Jose, CA USA
- Contact:
Re: Waves 9 NOT COMPATIBLE with DP!
So while I agree that they are not officially supported, I upgraded to 9 today. I can confirm that my 8.0 iLok license remains intact. the new license are transferred from the new cloud based system to my HD. DP 7.24 scanned all the plugins that i use GOLD and Ren Maxx and L3. I was able to open up and play a few DP projects that had 20+ Waves plugins on them. Now i don't recommend doing this if these are critical $$ making sessions.. Just an FYI that the 9.0 plugs are working in DP 7.24 in very limited tests. YMMV
Re: Waves 9 NOT COMPATIBLE with DP!
The crash only occurs here when the plug UI window is open. Close it first, then switching plugs works without crash.malditoyanki wrote:I can confirm DP crash upon REMOVAL of any waves plug.
Instantiation works.
Opening old projects created with waves old v8 plugs works (gui, sound, automation, everything.)
Removal of v9 plug results in freeze and crash.
DP8.06 PT11.2.0 VEP 5.3.x
828mkII 828mk3 ADA8000 MTP-AV Komplete Audio 6
Mac Mini Quad 10.9.4 - HP Quad Laptop Win 8.1
828mkII 828mk3 ADA8000 MTP-AV Komplete Audio 6
Mac Mini Quad 10.9.4 - HP Quad Laptop Win 8.1
- malditoyanki
- Posts: 315
- Joined: Tue May 08, 2007 2:57 pm
- Primary DAW OS: Unspecified
Re: Waves 9 NOT COMPATIBLE with DP!
Holy crap that dude is right. You can remove plugins by highlighting and hitting "command B"
This should definitely hold me over until DP8.
If you close a waves plug while its GUI is open it's crash city. I tried to read the crash log to see what happened. Hard to tell...apparently some stripper named "Cocoa" was involved. The name was everywhere.
This should definitely hold me over until DP8.
If you close a waves plug while its GUI is open it's crash city. I tried to read the crash log to see what happened. Hard to tell...apparently some stripper named "Cocoa" was involved. The name was everywhere.
Intel 6core 3.33 Ghz Westmere 48 gigs ram, MOTU micro lite, OS 10.9, DP 8.06, Apogee Symphony I/O, PLAY, most WAVES v9 plugs, Slate plugins, Soundtoys, ProTools 10, Kontakt 5, Omni, Stylus, Ivory
"DON'T fail me again, Admiral..."
"DON'T fail me again, Admiral..."
Re: Waves 9 NOT COMPATIBLE with DP!
I just meant close the plug window (click the red x or cmd-W when the window has focus). But hey, if cmd-B works also - more options. Actually works better if the plug is open and behind something.
Edit: DP is way more prone to crashing with Waves 9 - not worth it until fixed on one side or the other.
Edit: DP is way more prone to crashing with Waves 9 - not worth it until fixed on one side or the other.
DP8.06 PT11.2.0 VEP 5.3.x
828mkII 828mk3 ADA8000 MTP-AV Komplete Audio 6
Mac Mini Quad 10.9.4 - HP Quad Laptop Win 8.1
828mkII 828mk3 ADA8000 MTP-AV Komplete Audio 6
Mac Mini Quad 10.9.4 - HP Quad Laptop Win 8.1
Re: Waves 9 NOT COMPATIBLE with DP!
Hey guys, expected the worst. So far so good here. I always have a backup of my system, if I need to revert I can. Will keep you posted. I have the Gold bundle, Ren, Musicians 1+2 and a few singles. DP 7.24 Will try these in Bias Peak
2012 6 Core 5.1, MacPro , (32 gigs Ram) Monterey, Radeon 570, 2013 MacPro #1 12 Core, (64gigs ram) ,2013 MacPro #2, 8 Core .(64 gig ram), Monterey, MacBookPros 2011, 2017 , 828MKIII Hybrid, 828X, MicroBook II, 8Pre, Nuendo 8ch A/D converter, PreSonus DigiMax LT , DP11 , PT 2024 , Cubase Elements 10.5, Peak 7, Logic 9 ,WaveLab 11, Reason 12, DSP-Quattro 5 ,many plugins , mics and synths. http://www.panaccimusic.com
- Tritonemusic
- Posts: 2745
- Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Re: Waves 9 NOT COMPATIBLE with DP!
You can also use the Delete key.malditoyanki wrote:You can remove plugins by highlighting and hitting "command B"
DP 10.13, OS 13.7.6, iMac Pro (2017) 3.2 GHz 8-Core, 32 GB RAM, MOTU M4
- danworks
- Posts: 245
- Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: Italy
- Contact:
Re: Waves 9 NOT COMPATIBLE with DP!
Waves9 are on cocoa, DP7 is not, DP8 should be.
That's why Waves doesn't support DP7.
That's why Waves doesn't support DP7.
- Gravity Jim
- Posts: 2006
- Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:55 am
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Re: Waves 9 NOT COMPATIBLE with DP!
DP8 is 100% Cocoa code and 64-bit capable, so it should fix any arguments with Waves 9.
Jim Bordner
MacPro 5,1 (3.33Ghz 12-core), 32g RAM, OS X 10.14.6 • MOTU DP 10.11 • Logic Pro X 10.2.5 • Waves Platinum, UAD-2, Slate Digital, Komplete, Omnisphere 2, LASS, CineSamples, Chipsounds, V Collection 5[color]
MacPro 5,1 (3.33Ghz 12-core), 32g RAM, OS X 10.14.6 • MOTU DP 10.11 • Logic Pro X 10.2.5 • Waves Platinum, UAD-2, Slate Digital, Komplete, Omnisphere 2, LASS, CineSamples, Chipsounds, V Collection 5[color]
- FMiguelez
- Posts: 8266
- Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: Body: Narco-México Soul/Heart: NYC
Re: Waves 9 NOT COMPATIBLE with DP!
Not Waves version 8 or 9, but certainly version 7 is fully supported.danworks wrote:Waves9 are on cocoa, DP7 is not, DP8 should be.
That's why Waves doesn't support DP7.
Are there many advantages of Waves version 8 or 9 VS version 7? Unless I'm missing something big, there aren't any for the same set of given plugs...
Mac Mini Server i7 2.66 GHs/16 GB RAM / OSX 10.14 / DP 9.52
Tascam DM-24, MOTU Track 16, all Spectrasonics' stuff,
Vienna Instruments SUPER PACKAGE, Waves Mercury, slaved iMac and Mac Minis running VEP 7, etc.
---------------------------
"In physics the truth is rarely perfectly clear, and that is certainly universally the case in human affairs. Hence, what is not surrounded by uncertainty cannot be the truth." ― Richard Feynman
Tascam DM-24, MOTU Track 16, all Spectrasonics' stuff,
Vienna Instruments SUPER PACKAGE, Waves Mercury, slaved iMac and Mac Minis running VEP 7, etc.
---------------------------
"In physics the truth is rarely perfectly clear, and that is certainly universally the case in human affairs. Hence, what is not surrounded by uncertainty cannot be the truth." ― Richard Feynman
- Gravity Jim
- Posts: 2006
- Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:55 am
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Re: Waves 9 NOT COMPATIBLE with DP!
Waves version 8 is completely compatible with DP 7.xx.
Jim Bordner
MacPro 5,1 (3.33Ghz 12-core), 32g RAM, OS X 10.14.6 • MOTU DP 10.11 • Logic Pro X 10.2.5 • Waves Platinum, UAD-2, Slate Digital, Komplete, Omnisphere 2, LASS, CineSamples, Chipsounds, V Collection 5[color]
MacPro 5,1 (3.33Ghz 12-core), 32g RAM, OS X 10.14.6 • MOTU DP 10.11 • Logic Pro X 10.2.5 • Waves Platinum, UAD-2, Slate Digital, Komplete, Omnisphere 2, LASS, CineSamples, Chipsounds, V Collection 5[color]
- Prime Mover
- Posts: 2449
- Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:19 am
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: Fairbanks, Alaska
Re: Waves 9 NOT COMPATIBLE with DP!
Bizare, i just got the email from Waves this morning, here's what it says:
"Waves V9 does not yet support SoundGrid, MultiRack Native, and Venue platforms. Support for these platforms will be announced soon."
No mention of DP. Strange because, as low percentage userbase as DP has, I'm sure it's magnitudes higher than those.
BTW: What's really a pie in the eye is the fact that the whole "Mixing By the Bundle" series is done completely on DP7, as is much of the screen shots on the Waves website. Which means they're incompatable with their own demo DAW!
The more I think about it, the more I think this problem will be dealt with fairly quickly. There are so many workarounds to the crash bug that I can only think it's a fairly specific bit of code, and probably fairly easy to find, seeing as though it's only triggered by very specific actions. They've been heavily pushing "Mixing by the Bundle", and it would be a real black eye for them to let DP go unsupported for too long.
"Waves V9 does not yet support SoundGrid, MultiRack Native, and Venue platforms. Support for these platforms will be announced soon."
No mention of DP. Strange because, as low percentage userbase as DP has, I'm sure it's magnitudes higher than those.
BTW: What's really a pie in the eye is the fact that the whole "Mixing By the Bundle" series is done completely on DP7, as is much of the screen shots on the Waves website. Which means they're incompatable with their own demo DAW!
The more I think about it, the more I think this problem will be dealt with fairly quickly. There are so many workarounds to the crash bug that I can only think it's a fairly specific bit of code, and probably fairly easy to find, seeing as though it's only triggered by very specific actions. They've been heavily pushing "Mixing by the Bundle", and it would be a real black eye for them to let DP go unsupported for too long.
— Eric Barker
Eel House
"All's fair in love, war, and the recording studio"
MacPro 1,1 2Ghz 7GB RAM OS 10.6.8 | MacBook Pro 13" i5 1.8Ghz 16GB RAM OS 10.8.2
DP7/8 | Komplete 7 | B4II | Korg Legacy Analog | Waves v9 (various) | Valhalla Room | EWQLSO Gold
MOTU 828mkII | MOTU 8pre | Presonus BlueTube | FMR RNC
Themes: Round is Right and Alloy
Eel House
"All's fair in love, war, and the recording studio"
MacPro 1,1 2Ghz 7GB RAM OS 10.6.8 | MacBook Pro 13" i5 1.8Ghz 16GB RAM OS 10.8.2
DP7/8 | Komplete 7 | B4II | Korg Legacy Analog | Waves v9 (various) | Valhalla Room | EWQLSO Gold
MOTU 828mkII | MOTU 8pre | Presonus BlueTube | FMR RNC
Themes: Round is Right and Alloy
Re: Waves 9 NOT COMPATIBLE with DP!
Waves 9 introduces some strange instability in DP. Sometimes the delete plug doesn't crash it - other times it does. If you leave a Waves window open when you close a session, sometimes DP crashes when you reopen the session. Sometimes it just crashes. And the award goes to DP crashed in the background when I closed my browser - never saw anything like that. My system was rock solid prior to upgrading to 9.
DP8.06 PT11.2.0 VEP 5.3.x
828mkII 828mk3 ADA8000 MTP-AV Komplete Audio 6
Mac Mini Quad 10.9.4 - HP Quad Laptop Win 8.1
828mkII 828mk3 ADA8000 MTP-AV Komplete Audio 6
Mac Mini Quad 10.9.4 - HP Quad Laptop Win 8.1