ANYONE USING 4.6 and UAD PLUGS WITH SUCCESS?

[TheCoalman]

4.6 has rendered my UAD card useless, for some reason every time I insert a UAD plug into any audio track, the processor spikes and overloads when the wiper hits the soundbite, 4.5 never had this problem, just wondering if there are any workarounds for 4.6

thanks

[chrispick]

4.6 has rendered my UAD card useless, for some reason every time I insert a UAD plug into any audio track, the processor spikes and overloads when the wiper hits the soundbite, 4.5 never had this problem, just wondering if there are any workarounds for 4.6

thanks

I'm using DP 4.6 and a single UAD-1 on a new dual 2.0 (non-PCI-X) running Tiger with no problems.

Are you using the latest UAD-1 update? If you run into continued trouble, contact UA. They're good people.

Hey, I just noticed your machine stat lists OS 10.3.9. Doesn't DP 4.6 require 10.4 or higher?

[Jeff E]

I run Tiger 10.4.2 and DP 4.6 and UAD-1. I just did a new project with 30+ tracks and no hiccups at all.


Jeff

[TheCoalman]

What version of UAD do you guys have and are your soundbites contiguous or do they have space in between them?


thanks

[Yiannis]

Hey, I just noticed your machine stat lists OS 10.3.9. Doesn't DP 4.6 require 10.4 or higher?

Nope,it works with 10.3 or higher!

4.6 here with 10.3.8 and UAD 3.0.9.Runs smoothly

Coalman what is your buffer size? if it is at 128 and you have virtual instruments you will have troubles!
Try 1024

[chrispick]

What version of UAD do you guys have and are your soundbites contiguous or do they have space in between them?


thanks

I'm running UAD-1 3.9. Most of my soundbites are contiguous, but not all of them. I typically track at buffer 256, then mix at 1042. My UAD-1 seems to hold up in both conditions.

[azusa749a]

TheCoalman, did you happen to use UAD's mono to stereo plug ins?
You can't use that without inserting some mono to stereo plug in before UAD's stereo plug ins.

My set up works great (UAD 3.9/ OS 10.3.9/DP 4.6).
In fact, on DP 4.6 you can call up and save UAD's AU presets which you can't do that on DP 4.5.2.

[richard]

TheCoalman, did you happen to use UAD's mono to stereo plug ins?
You can't use that without inserting some mono to stereo plug in before UAD's stereo plug ins.

My set up works great (UAD 3.9/ OS 10.3.9/DP 4.6).
In fact, on DP 4.6 you can call up and save UAD's AU presets which you can't do that on DP 4.5.2.

Yes, a number of tracks that used to work with UAD all of the sudden weren't. Then I replaced the UAD mono to stereo plugs with just mono and it worked. At the time, going mono of these tracks was OK with me, so I never used a non UAD plug to go stereo first then plop on a stereo UAD plug....

[TheCoalman]

TheCoalman, did you happen to use UAD's mono to stereo plug ins?
You can't use that without inserting some mono to stereo plug in before UAD's stereo plug ins.

My set up works great (UAD 3.9/ OS 10.3.9/DP 4.6).
In fact, on DP 4.6 you can call up and save UAD's AU presets which you can't do that on DP 4.5.2.

Yeah, I tried the mono to stereo UAD plugs and had the same problem.....what computer do you have, ram, etc?

thanks

[richard]

If you run into continued trouble, contact UA. They're good people.

I'm going to avoid UAD products from here on out! Not because of the product, but because I was treated VERY poorly when trying to cash in a $50 discount on my first plug-in purchase after buying a Project-Pak. I was never told that I had to make the purchase within any given amount of time, and so I took about four months using the stock plug-ins before deciding which plugin I wanted (Dream Verb). When I went to purchase it, I wasn't going to be given the discount via their website. I emailed them. No response. I called and was ridiculed and disrespected by their tech support guy with snooty remarks like, "Promotions have expirations dates, it's not a new concept." Repeatedly. He'd continue to make an analogy of trying to cash in on a cereal box promotion years after it expired.

Usually, unless it's an unreasonable amount of time, the deadline for similar promotions refers to the date that you have to _purchase_ the product (which I did before the promotion ended). Sometimes there's a clause that says you have to take advantage of the promotion offers within a certain amount of time after the initial purchase, but like I said, I wasn't made aware of such a time limit. Usually, companies who have "good people" as employees will bend a little if the customer makes a mistake (I'm still not convinced that I even did!). Because keeping a customer happy is so much easier and cheaper than finding new ones and having a black mark over your company's image. I didn't want to argue with the tech-support person, and after he said that he wouldn't help me, I wrote another email. Of course, it probably went to the very same guy and I again never received a reply.

$50. Not a lot considering that I may have spent potentially THOUSANDS of dollars with them over my lifetime. While I don't have tons of $50 bills lying around my studio, it's not even that much money for me to waste too much of my energy. But I can't take being treated so rudely by the person over the phone when I was non-emotional, laid out the facts as I saw them, and calmly requested that they re-instate my credit. Maybe it would be different if I attacked them and/or him, but I didn't. I figure he either felt he was looking after his company, or that he was enjoying some sad power trip. Either way, TC Powercore found a new customer.

[azusa749a]

TheCoalman, this is what you missed:
http://www.uaudio.com/support/software/ ... .html#MOTU

I don't use any mono to stereo plug ins, so I have no problems.
DP 4.6 was kind of a surprise update for UAD as well.

[eriknorlander]

4.6 has rendered my UAD card useless, for some reason every time I insert a UAD plug into any audio track, the processor spikes and overloads when the wiper hits the soundbite, 4.5 never had this problem, just wondering if there are any workarounds for 4.6

thanks

Hi Coalman,

I am having extremely good luck with DP 4.6 and four UAD-1 cards in my G5 dual 2 GHz (non-PCI-X) machine which I just recently bought based on the advice from this board along with links to a couple of UA columns.

I ran one card back in the OS9 days then added a second when I upgraded to OSX. When I bought the G5, I also bought a used Magma expansion chassis on ebay and added cards 3 and 4. I use the Pultec EQ on almost every channel as well as a liberal smattering of LA2s and 1176s. I think just about every project also has a Plate 140 and Dreamverb aux and then a Precision Limiter on the master fader. I find myself hardly using any MOTU plugs at all these days. I think the MOTU plugs are really good, but the UA plugs are better. At least for rock music.

I am running Mac OS 10.4.1 and v 3.9 of the UAD software. I think it's important to keep current with both of these, making sure they're happy together.

For Richard, I have found the UA company to be extremely helpful and positive. I had no trouble with redeeming the promotions for some of their premium plugs, and I even got the Dreamverb free a couple of years ago when they were running some kind of promotion through Mackie.

If you've had trouble with one guy over there, I wouldn't write off the company because of it. I know it's frustrating as hell. But maybe he had a bad day, or maybe he's just a jerk (there are those out there, you know ). But one bad apple shouldn't spoil the whole tree.

For both guys, I say hang in there and give UA another chance. I can't imagine mixing without the UADs.

Best regards,
Erik

[TheCoalman]

I am having extremely good luck with DP 4.6 and four UAD-1 cards in my G5 dual 2 GHz (non-PCI-X) machine which I just recently bought based on the advice from this board along with links to a couple of UA columns.

I am running Mac OS 10.4.1 and v 3.9 of the UAD software. I think it's important to keep current with both of these, making sure they're happy together...

For both guys, I say hang in there and give UA another chance. I can't imagine mixing without the UADs.

Thanks Eric, that was very helpful, I'm not writing the company off by any means, I've had good experiences with them. I just never had a problem in 4.5 and now I have CPU spiking everytime I have a UAD plug in whenever the wiper hits the soundbite, I'm thinking it might be because of Dynamic CPU Management which I can't turn off. Are you using the plugs on contiguous files or are they all chopped up?

thanks

Coalman

[eriknorlander]

I just never had a problem in 4.5 and now I have CPU spiking everytime I have a UAD plug in whenever the wiper hits the soundbite, I'm thinking it might be because of Dynamic CPU Management which I can't turn off. Are you using the plugs on contiguous files or are they all chopped up?

Hi Coalman,

My files are all chopped up. I'm using a G5 with DP 4.6 and Mac OS 10.4.1, and I haven't experienced the spiking problem or the Dynamic CPU Management issues with this system.

BUT ... before I switched over to the G5, I was running 4.52 and 10.3.9 on a G4 dual 1GHz machine. I did occasionally have the Dynamic CPU Management glitches with that system, although they were not regularly occuring (that was pretty baffling). I never tried 4.6 on the G4, though, nor Tiger. I wonder if you upgrade to Tiger if that might help. I would hate to think that the Dynamic CPU Management is a problem on a G4 and not on a G5.

Best regards,
Erik

[Kind Of Loud]

Coalman.

Are you using UA 3.9?...I had the same problems...CPU was overloadin' so bad, my system was useless.

Installed 3.9.....BAM!!......running smooth as ever. In the uodate, there is a fix for UA plugs when they are by-passed which causes spikes in DP.

I'm runnin' a DP800......(..stop laughing!!...I'm trying to be serious) with 10.3.9 and DP4.6........That UA3.9 update solved my problems.

Worth a shot if you don't have it installed.