osx lion compatibility

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Some of the posts are getting just too kwell and inarticulate for me.

Kno wht i mn cuz? n tht dm shft keyz so far awy i juz dnt hv time t rch ova thr

It's almost as if they're from another planet!

[FMiguelez]

and dont mention any BS about DP has auto sve now - cos thats err BS!!! you can work for hours and it doesnt save - just depends if u happen to be in playback when the autosave hits..

oh yeah and its not like it tells you it autosaves.. hello a beachball? is that the best they can do?

I actually like autosave.
But I admit it could be made a little smarter, as in not trying to save while playing back or recording.

Having said that, it has saved my butt a few times, indeed.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

...it could be made a little smarter, as in not trying to save while playing back or recording.

Check the preferences, FMMig, DP does not save while playing (and I believe that includes recording).

Using autosave in any program is for me like having a bladder of stones tied around my neck to remind me to breath. CMD-s is such a reflex activity for me, I don't really need to have the program do it. Maybe it's just me... but it seems a bit redundant. I'll trust my brain, thank you.

[FMiguelez]

...it could be made a little smarter, as in not trying to save while playing back or recording.

Check the preferences, FMMig, DP does not save while playing (and I believe that includes recording).

Uh-oh... guess you're right.

Ok. I swallow my words and eat them for breakfast... I'll have a constipation

Using autosave in any program is for me like having a bladder of stones tied around my neck to remind me to breath. CMD-s is such a reflex activity for me, I don't really need to have the program do it. Maybe it's just me... but it seems a bit redundant. I'll trust my brain, thank you.

I hear you.
The thing is that sometimes I find myself so immersed in what I'm doing that minutes turn into hours, and just forget about saving. This doesn't happen often, but I like having AutoSave as a safety net for those occasions.

I'll take a look at those preferences this monday...

[James Steele]

CMD-s is such a reflex activity for me, I don't really need to have the program do it. Maybe it's just me... but it seems a bit redundant. I'll trust my brain, thank you.

It's nice to have a backup, I agree with you MLC. Such an easy thing to do. Maybe that can someday fix this to martian's satisfaction, but Cmd+S does save during playback. I instinctively do this all the time. Ingrained habit, and it's a good habit to get into.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Y'know, Finale also has an auto save feature but it takes over the app regardless of what you're doing. The think about auto save for me is that even if I am in the middle of an edit, it is a concern that something will conflict in some weird way if SAVE and whatever you're doing conflict. I'm not a control freak, but I do want to know when things are happening in my machines. Heck, both my vehicles are still standard transmissions. ☺ Don't forget to set the parking brake!

Keeps you alert and young enough to chase the kids off your lawn...

[martian]

apple S is the way to go!

but what happens for me is I do it every time before I flip over to audiofinder.. and after 5 - 6 hours and literally/possibly thousands of sound bites - I start to relax - and then on day 6 of no crashing - kaboom! didnt save for 20 -40 mins. and somehow autosave is 2 hours older than my last manual save.

( couldnt they just have a save at first moment when not in playback after the user set time interval - hmmm didnt think that one through amazingly well I feel. - well could be redundant - I for one will buy Lion ASAP and put it on a new partition - you know I will let you know!

I really liked working in Live as it had a recover session dialog if u did crash unexpectedly.. as does open office ( heck its just a documant eh? )

but Live is no match for DP in the audio editing department, and open office doesnt do MIDI (hahaha)

and in my opinion as a serious motorbike rider - manual transmission is the way to go!

[Timeline]

CMD-s is such a reflex activity for me, I don't really need to have the program do it. Maybe it's just me... but it seems a bit redundant. I'll trust my brain, thank you.

It's nice to have a backup, I agree with you MLC. Such an easy thing to do. Maybe that can someday fix this to martian's satisfaction, but Cmd+S does save during playback. I instinctively do this all the time. Ingrained habit, and it's a good habit to get into.

Amen!

[toodamnhip]

WHo is this Clown (Martian) that complains about DP's auto save?

And rants like a fool.

James was kind to not kick him off.

Dude, if you want "auto save" to SAVE your ass, just set it to auto save every minute.
That is in preferences and had you known anything about DP, you'd know that. So, you have two simple solutions:
1) Command -S, (If you can;t use that, then who the lame one?)
2) And auto save set to every minute if you'd like.

You probably have it set to some extraordinary amount of time like every 3 hrs or something.

The only BS as you call it , came from your lack of understanding of this program.

By the way, I see no need to go to Lion for a Looooooong time unless thousands here at this site have tested ALL my plugs and VIs and are happy.
After that, there needs to be a real reason such as it improves something!..
I don;t need another jungle pet in my studio anyway.

[Phil O]

...if you want "auto save" to SAVE your ass, just set it to auto save every minute...

Agreed. I have auto save set to 1 minute and "save a copy." It's pretty transparent. Never gets in the way of what I'm doing. I've only needed to use the autosave file once, but that one time saved my ass.

Phil

[FutureLegends]

To me Auto-Save is currently useless. With a project with lots of samples loaded it takes 10-15 seconds to save (with beach-ball-o-rama). When you're busy working on edits it's very annoying to have to wait for that beach ball every time. Also that long wait means I don't save as often as I would like. And also DP is prone to crashing when editing (I blame this on PLAY's memory server stealing all available system ram).
PLAY 3 promises faster save times but even if they'e cut in half it will still be too long to endure if you have auto-save on.
If somehow Lion can autosave the state of the app without causing DP to go into beach ball mode that would be a true blessing for me.

[martian]

yeah timeline you got that right
i am a clown - juggling 2 feature films simultaneously - thats a classic circus act

you got any more hoops for me to jump thru whilst doing my day job?

I'm right with future legends on this - 15 sec is "forever" and if he was to have it on every minute then 25% of his time is gone. ( mine sometimes get that long too - 20 minute long sessions with thousands of sound files )

and oh my word nobody say anything remotely negative about DP ever- even on the trouble shooting/criticism forum.

lion is coming - snowleopard will become a fat old pussycat - grandad's will need to get used to it..

( whats after the cats? dogs? Poodle the worlds most advanced operating system? )

I will do the sensible thing and give Lion a go on cloned partition of course..

I appreciate you may have problems as you may have a pretty exciting plug in collection.

mine however is the most boring on the planet - almost none!

to me tho the liberation from constantly saving is very exciting and I am quite happy to send some bug reports in if necessary.

the beauty of my job is we do the same thing over and over again - exactly the same again and again so we tend to find workarounds for some of the file issues that DP has been prone to..

[MIDI Life Crisis]

- juggling 2 feature films simultaneously...

Of course none of the rest of us are all that busy... LOL!

the beauty of my job is we do the same thing over and over again - exactly the same again and again...

I am so sorry to hear that.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

~ Albert Einstein

[Killahurts]

I just don't think I could get used to auto-saving, at least in DP. Why? Remembering to save is not an issue for me, it's knowing WHEN to save that matters. I am so used to saving at the right times, after the most important performances and edits, that it has become part of my workflow.

If I were to turn on auto-save, I would still most likely command-s over the top of it anyway. I think making those value decisions and then manually saving, works better for me than just a timer-based solution.

Having said that, if they can ever make it transparently save everything I do as I do it, I would go for that in a heartbeat!

[James Steele]

and oh my word nobody say anything remotely negative about DP ever- even on the trouble shooting/criticism forum.

Martian... read my lips... THAT is bullsh••. Just look around. There are plenty of negative things said about DP all the time... so check before you say something that foolish. As I said, I hope they fix it to your satisfaction at some point.