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robinsky
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Spinning ball on changing to another sequence

Post by robinsky »

hey there!
i got a huge liverecording of two days in two different sequences. today i opened a third one. when switching back to the second one i get an infinite spinning ball and dp stops doing anything. i'm on a G5 with 10.4.11 and dp 7.21. i doublechecked with my macbook pro with 10.6 and dp 7.21 ... the same!
any idea? thanx and greets from austria!
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Re: Spinning ball on changing to another sequence

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See if you can Load that sequence into another project.

c-ya,

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Re: Spinning ball on changing to another sequence

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I have a similar problem (7.22 running on 27" iMac, OS X 10.6.6, 16 GB RAM). I have five sequences - songs - in a project and like robinsky, I sometimes get a SPOD when changing from one to another, and have to force-quit. The data in there is all pretty modest so far: the only plug-ins I'm using are SampleTank (with no more than half the parts full), Pianoteq, ARIA Player and RealStrat (there are 2 instances of that in one song); the songs probably average about 5 minutes long; there are multiple takes of my hideous vocals and no more than 20 tracks of MIDI in any one song. I get the SPOD problem whether I use the Sequences menu or click one in the Chunks window.

I've found a workaround, but it's far from ideal: launch DP with the shift key held down to prevent it from loading the Audio driver, switch to the song I want to work on, then load the audio driver from Setup -> Audio System -> MOTU Audio System...

That said, and DP has just crashed at that last stage. :-( I got the same result when I tried loading the same song into another project as per Dan Worley's suggestion (I didn’t know you could do this!).

The only thing that occurs to me as a possible fly in the ointment is that, following a suggestion on an IK Multimedia forum, I changed SampleTank's 'home' folder to the outer IK folder so that it can access all the IK instruments I have (ST, Miroslav Philharmonik, SampleMoog, Sonik Synth, SampleTron). Even when the switch works OK, something is taking a very long time to load - I'm assuming this is ST.
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Re: Spinning ball on changing to another sequence

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On a few occasions in the past, my working project would develop an inexplicable crash. Sometimes it happened upon loading, sometimes while playing. In each case, what fixed it was to delete the VI's, then reapply and reconfigure them.

If you can't open the file in order to delete the VI's, then hold down OPTION upon startup, and it will open the Plugin preferences page. There you can choose which plugins open. De-select the VI's in that file and continue to boot. Then you can delete them from the project. Now go to preferences and reselect the VI's, then reconstruct the VI's or V-Rack you had before.

This still may not be the problem, but it's worth a try if you can rebuild your VI load.

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Re: Spinning ball on changing to another sequence

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Shooshie wrote:If you can't open the file in order to delete the VI's, then hold down OPTION upon startup, and it will open the Plugin preferences page.
It doesn't do that for me - it simply offers a menu of plug-in sets.
Shooshie wrote:De-select the VI's in that file and continue to boot.
This gets stranger. If I select, say, 'Safe' or 'Disable all' on option-launch, once I'm in the project and go to prefs to reinstate or what-have-you, the instrument plug-ins aren't even listed! However, if I select a set such as 'Enable all' they are indeed enabled, but I don't seem to be able to do any of this selectively.
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Re: Spinning ball on changing to another sequence

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Curiouser and curiouser. I've noticed now that there's no consistency in the point at which the crash occurs. Sometimes the tracks and/or sequence window will redraw with the contents of the sequence I'm switching to, then I get the SPOD; sometimes it even gets as far as displaying the SampleTank window (but without quite completing the title bar) before SPODding; other times it SPODs immediately, while the sequence I'm leaving is still on the screen.

Just now, I managed to get to a sequence I hadn’t managed to get to for a while, did a bit of work on it and couldn’t get back to the previous one I was working on. Then DP crashed as soon as I tried to open the project again. Next time, DP loaded OK and let me go back to the previous sequence. Go figure!

BTW, this is after rejigging my SampleTank setup so that if I want Philharmonik, Sonik Synth or whatever I have to load that as a separate plugin.
iMac Pro (2017), macOS 12.7.6 Monterey, MOTU M4, Adam A7 monitors, DP 11.3 94678, Finale 27.4.1.146, VIs from NI, SampleModeling, AudioModeling, Spitfire, Soniccouture, IK, UVI, Modartt, etc. Studiologic acuna88 keyboard
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Re: Spinning ball on changing to another sequence

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I have a project with 12 sequences each with BFD loaded and like you guys, randomly, when switching between projects I get the spinning beach ball of death....I will try disabling BFD in all the sequences and see if this persists....not holding my breath though! :shake:
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