EZDrummer Question

[jwelty]

Does anyone know why DP would only be showing 7 stereo pair coming from EZDrummer? In the turorial video I see 8 pair but I only have 7 available. In addition to that I'm not getting the "KICK" mic. I've contacted EZdrummer "support" but they seem pretty clueless.

Thanks
Jim

[rentadrummer]

Does anyone know why DP would only be showing 7 stereo pair coming from EZDrummer? In the turorial video I see 8 pair but I only have 7 available. In addition to that I'm not getting the "KICK" mic. I've contacted EZdrummer "support" but they seem pretty clueless.

Thanks
Jim

I haven't used EZDrummer for awhile so I hope this is correct.

The kick mic should still be routed through the main stereo output of EZD, as if you hadn't split the outs into separate busses. You need to route the original EZD output to an audio track, the same as you've done for the other 7 busses.

[jwelty]

Thanks Ron for the reply. I think I may have left out some details.

This is what I've done thus far.

I create a MIDI track and associated instrument track.

I assign EZdrummer to the instrument track.

I then open the mixer in easy drummer and select "multichannel". At this point I see 8 tracks that I can assign to each mic within the EZdrummer mixer. I assign the "KICK" to "TRK 1", "SNARE TOP" to "TRK 2", "SNARE BOTTOM" to "TRK 3" and so on with the exception of the TOMS which I assign the first two toms to "TRK 5" and the last tom to "TRK 6".

Now when I go back to the DP track list I add 8 stereo tracks.

When I go to select the inputs for each of these stereo tracks I have only EZDrummer..1 through EZDrummer..7. According to the tutorial video, there should be 8 pair coming in from EZDrummer.

Is this a known issue with DP or EZDrummer? Am I missing a setup option somewhere? I'm not a novice at setting up routing in DP. I've set up much more complicated routing bundles than what I think is required here. I'm just needing to know if anyone else has run into this.

[rentadrummer]

Try routing the output of the original Instrument track to a bus and route the input of that bus to one of the 8 stereo tracks. Before you changed the routing in EZD to multichannel you should have heard all instruments. With multichannel you should still hear kick via the instrument track. I think.

There's nothing wrong with DP or EZD but the routing is a little confusing until you've done it a few times. I just went through this with someone else on the forum a few months ago, but didn't save any of the emails or the screenshot of the routing I sent to him. I'm sure someone else will chime in, and if not, I'll post a screen shot tomorrow.

[jwelty]

Thanks for your help Ron. I do appreciate it.

[crduval]

Try routing the output of the original Instrument track to a bus and route the input of that bus to one of the 8 stereo tracks. Before you changed the routing in EZD to multichannel you should have heard all instruments. With multichannel you should still hear kick via the instrument track. I think.

Yes, the kick appears in the original instrument track. Confusing indeed, until you get the hang of it...

One other note - since EZD MIDI patterns are played by a human, when you lay them into a track, the beats do not line up exactly with the grid spacing (they are off a few ticks). So, if you lay tracks down using a click track, then want to put EZD patterns in later to create a realistic drum part (and you are a stickler about timing), you will notice a little sloppiness. The problem can be solved by using one or more EZD patterns to create the initial click track, or by using EZD as a VI only (don't use the canned patterns) OR, you can pull the EZD tracks(s) forward a little once you create the complete part (including fills).

Good luck!

[jwelty]

I'm still confused as to why I only have 7 EZDrummer outputs to choose from for track/buss inputs.

[Armageddon]

One other note - since EZD MIDI patterns are played by a human, when you lay them into a track, the beats do not line up exactly with the grid spacing (they are off a few ticks). So, if you lay tracks down using a click track, then want to put EZD patterns in later to create a realistic drum part (and you are a stickler about timing), you will notice a little sloppiness. The problem can be solved by using one or more EZD patterns to create the initial click track, or by using EZD as a VI only (don't use the canned patterns) OR, you can pull the EZD tracks(s) forward a little once you create the complete part (including fills).

I have a 4/4 and a 3/4 pattern I did myself for looped click tracks, which are completely quantized. If you're building a drum track from canned patterns (I prefer to just lay down my own master drum track using EZDrummer as a tone module once I have the other tracks put together), you can always quantize the completed track, quantize it only to a percentage, humanize it a bit after using DP's Humanize function, or simply hit the "Humanize" button in EZDrummer, which you can then dial to taste. I'm a control freak, so once I prepare to lay down my drums, I just switch off the looped track and do it all live.

[twistedtom]

I have read a number of times that the Nashvill drums are a must have, it is one of the few I do not have. I do not play much country, mostly rock, do you would it be a good pick for me?

[crduval]

I have a 4/4 and a 3/4 pattern I did myself for looped click tracks, which are completely quantized.

I'm a control freak, so once I prepare to lay down my drums, I just switch off the looped track and do it all live.

This is what I do as well. I play the MIDI loop through a HW drum machine to minimize latency, laying down critical rhythm tracks (guitars, bass, piano), then replace the loops with a "real" drum track using a VI (usually EZD). Most times I play the drums on the keyboard - I have gotten pretty good at this, and its fun as hell, but the subtle stuff that drummers do is tough and time consuming for me to emulate (things like ghost notes, playing the hihat with their foot while their hands are busy, complex fills...). This is the stuff that really brings my tracks to life, and is why the EZD MIDI patterns are really nice. Unfortunately, they have to be nudged to line up with my other rhythm parts.

Even though DP has these comprehensive quantization features, I have never liked the results I've gotten. Its probably because I haven't spent enough time using them to learn the subtleties, but it always sounds like an obvious effect, and I always have to spend hours fixing things to end up very close to where I started!

Best,

Chris

[rentadrummer]

I have read a number of times that the Nashvill drums are a must have, it is one of the few I do not have. I do not play much country, mostly rock, do you would it be a good pick for me?

Before I had Superior 2 I used to use a combination of EZDrummer PopRock and Nashville. I liked the snare, hi hats and one ride from Nashville, and the toms, crashes and kick in PopRock. Even now with S2 I still like to mix in the ride from Nashville because it's got more definition than any of the other rides in any of the expansions. I've found that a lot of the sounds in Nashville vary depending upon the velocities used to trigger them, and I particularly liked the snare when the velocities were pretty hot, which gave it a nice "crack".