Recording mulitple audio tracks from multiple MIDI tracks
Moderator: James Steele
Forum rules
This forum is for seeking solutions to technical problems involving Digital Performer and/or plug-ins on MacOS, as well as feature requests, criticisms, comparison to other DAWs.
This forum is for seeking solutions to technical problems involving Digital Performer and/or plug-ins on MacOS, as well as feature requests, criticisms, comparison to other DAWs.
Recording mulitple audio tracks from multiple MIDI tracks
I'm using DP5 and I have numerous MIDI tracks routed through Kontact Instrument Tracks. I would like to record Audio Tracks of the individual MIDI tracks all at the same time rather than one at a time.
How, if there is a way, do I do this?
Thank you for your assistance.
Leo
How, if there is a way, do I do this?
Thank you for your assistance.
Leo
-
- Posts: 325
- Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: Peoria, Illinois USA
Re: Recording mulitple audio tracks from multiple MIDI track
What audio interface do you use ? and where is your gear list in signature ?
That info helps to the forum members to help you
Schweats
That info helps to the forum members to help you
Schweats
Schweats
MacPro 2.8/OS 10.10.1/6g ram/Powerbook G4/1g ram/10.4.11/828 mk3 hybrid/MTP AV usb/DP 7.23/Stylus RMX/Omnisphere/Trilian/Mach Five v2/RealGuitar/Korg Oasys/UAD2-Quad card & various plugs/Novation Zero SL mk2 controller/Akai MPK61
MacPro 2.8/OS 10.10.1/6g ram/Powerbook G4/1g ram/10.4.11/828 mk3 hybrid/MTP AV usb/DP 7.23/Stylus RMX/Omnisphere/Trilian/Mach Five v2/RealGuitar/Korg Oasys/UAD2-Quad card & various plugs/Novation Zero SL mk2 controller/Akai MPK61
- BKK-OZ
- Posts: 1977
- Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: Oztrailia
- Contact:
Re: Recording mulitple audio tracks from multiple MIDI track
Use 'Freeze Tracks' from the Audio menu.
Cheers,
BK
…string theory says that all subatomic particles of the universe are nothing but musical notes. A, B-flat, C-sharp, correspond to electrons, neutrinos, quarks, and what have you. Therefore, physics is nothing but the laws of harmony of these strings. Chemistry is nothing but the melodies we can play on these strings. The universe is a symphony of strings and the mind of God… it is cosmic music resonating through 11 dimensional hyperspace.
- M Kaku
BK
…string theory says that all subatomic particles of the universe are nothing but musical notes. A, B-flat, C-sharp, correspond to electrons, neutrinos, quarks, and what have you. Therefore, physics is nothing but the laws of harmony of these strings. Chemistry is nothing but the melodies we can play on these strings. The universe is a symphony of strings and the mind of God… it is cosmic music resonating through 11 dimensional hyperspace.
- M Kaku
Re: Recording mulitple audio tracks from multiple MIDI track
I tried that and it seems that Freeze Audio tracks only works with already established Audio Tracks. I want to go from MIDI/Piano to Audio/Piano, MIDI/Bass to Audio/Bass, etc in one pass.
Re: Recording mulitple audio tracks from multiple MIDI track
Freeze tracks works with VI tracks if you select the VI track AND associated MIDI tracks.
If you're using multiple outputs from the VI (which you should if you want to get discrete tracks for the separate Kontakt instruments) it would be easier to just setup a few audio tracks with the Kontakt outputs routed to them.
If you're using multiple outputs from the VI (which you should if you want to get discrete tracks for the separate Kontakt instruments) it would be easier to just setup a few audio tracks with the Kontakt outputs routed to them.
- doodles
- Posts: 732
- Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: Scotland / LA
- Contact:
Re: Recording mulitple audio tracks from multiple MIDI track
I've just been doing a load of tracklaying at the moment.
Freeze is your friend. Simply select the MIDI channel and the VI, and the bars that you want frozen.
However, I think (but don't quote me on it) that if you want to freeze multiple MIDI channels in Kontakt and other VI's you need to have the various outputs of each MIDI channel set to different outputs, or busses, otherwise they all freeze into the same audio channel, like a bounce. Someone out there want to chime in> If that's not the case, I'm gonna be p'd off, cos I've been freezing these thousands of tracks one by one!
One thing that does bother me about the whole Freeze process though, is it's a real PITA to have to highlight the MIDI channel AND the VI in order to freeze. I'm sure there's a reason for it, but it wastes a hell of a lot of time. I mean, surely if I select that MIDI track, it's obvious I want it to freeze the VI that it's associated with?
It probably doesn't sound that big a deal, but to give you an idea, I've just been working on a soundtrack (literally finished tracklaying with some help yesterday!). 5 hour's of music. 120 q's. Each q has on average 10 softsynths (kontakt, vienna, spectrasonics, etc). The template has maybe 250 MIDI channels in it, with about 120 being used at any one time. To try and shift click maybe 8 MIDI channels at various places in the sequence, and then scroll down the page and shift click the associated VI's is a nightmare and so fiddly. Lost track of the amount of times I've pressed the wrong button, and then have to start selecting the relevant tracks all over again.
Freeze is your friend. Simply select the MIDI channel and the VI, and the bars that you want frozen.
However, I think (but don't quote me on it) that if you want to freeze multiple MIDI channels in Kontakt and other VI's you need to have the various outputs of each MIDI channel set to different outputs, or busses, otherwise they all freeze into the same audio channel, like a bounce. Someone out there want to chime in> If that's not the case, I'm gonna be p'd off, cos I've been freezing these thousands of tracks one by one!
One thing that does bother me about the whole Freeze process though, is it's a real PITA to have to highlight the MIDI channel AND the VI in order to freeze. I'm sure there's a reason for it, but it wastes a hell of a lot of time. I mean, surely if I select that MIDI track, it's obvious I want it to freeze the VI that it's associated with?
It probably doesn't sound that big a deal, but to give you an idea, I've just been working on a soundtrack (literally finished tracklaying with some help yesterday!). 5 hour's of music. 120 q's. Each q has on average 10 softsynths (kontakt, vienna, spectrasonics, etc). The template has maybe 250 MIDI channels in it, with about 120 being used at any one time. To try and shift click maybe 8 MIDI channels at various places in the sequence, and then scroll down the page and shift click the associated VI's is a nightmare and so fiddly. Lost track of the amount of times I've pressed the wrong button, and then have to start selecting the relevant tracks all over again.
2*5-core 3.46 Intel xeon (32 gigs RAM), 2*dual 2.5 (16 & 32 gigs RAM), DP 8.07, WAVES 9, Lexicon plugs, SoundToys, all Spectrasonics, NI Komplete 9, Vienna Ensemble (extended), LASS, Evolve, Symphobia, etc, Cinesamples, Arturia, cinestrings, all Project Sam
-
- Posts: 29
- Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:07 am
- Primary DAW OS: Unspecified
Re: Recording mulitple audio tracks from multiple MIDI track
Other posters are right: you need to route the various Kontakt MIDI instruments to their own discrete audio channels. This would be true of all VIs playing back more than one instrument at a time. I have templates of empty audio channels for my Vis. I put 'em in a track folder and forget them until I need them. Activate them and you're ready to go.
One thing more. I think the whole freeze deal is overrated. Unless your piece is more than 5 or 6 minutes, listening to the tracks you're recording as you lay them down can often catch things. When you're freezing tracks, all you can do is hope everything's okay. Most of the time it is. But not always!
One thing more. I think the whole freeze deal is overrated. Unless your piece is more than 5 or 6 minutes, listening to the tracks you're recording as you lay them down can often catch things. When you're freezing tracks, all you can do is hope everything's okay. Most of the time it is. But not always!
Re: Recording mulitple audio tracks from multiple MIDI track
Freeze occurs in real time, it's pretty much a macro for creating Audio Tracks, bussing your source tracks to them and then hitting record. Set your Audio Patch through to monitor record enabled tracks through effects and you should be able to hear the tracks as they freeze.Alan Lindgren wrote:Other posters are right: you need to route the various Kontakt MIDI instruments to their own discrete audio channels. This would be true of all VIs playing back more than one instrument at a time. I have templates of empty audio channels for my Vis. I put 'em in a track folder and forget them until I need them. Activate them and you're ready to go.
One thing more. I think the whole freeze deal is overrated. Unless your piece is more than 5 or 6 minutes, listening to the tracks you're recording as you lay them down can often catch things. When you're freezing tracks, all you can do is hope everything's okay. Most of the time it is. But not always!
- daniel.sneed
- Posts: 2263
- Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: France
- Contact:
Re: Recording mulitple audio tracks from multiple MIDI track
That's where DP is such a marvel! Some great news every day! This last one has been puzzling me for years. Thanks Mess!mess wrote:[...]Set your Audio Patch through to monitor record enabled tracks through effects and you should be able to hear the tracks as they freeze.
dAn Shakin' all over!
DP11.34, OS12.7.6, MacBookPro-i7
Falcon, Kontakt, Ozone, RX, Unisum, Michelangelo, Sparkverb
Waldorf Iridium & STVC & Blofeld, Kemper Profiler Stage, EWIusb, Mixface
JBL4326+4312sub, Behringer X32rack
Many mandolins, banjos, guitars, flutes, melodions, xylos, kalimbas...

DP11.34, OS12.7.6, MacBookPro-i7
Falcon, Kontakt, Ozone, RX, Unisum, Michelangelo, Sparkverb
Waldorf Iridium & STVC & Blofeld, Kemper Profiler Stage, EWIusb, Mixface
JBL4326+4312sub, Behringer X32rack
Many mandolins, banjos, guitars, flutes, melodions, xylos, kalimbas...